The Federal Marriage Admendment

[GenBabe]

I think it is so bad that Bush says he is a "Uniter not a divider" then the next minute says he is going to make marriage between only a man and a woman with the fma. If that is a uniter who needs a divider.

When everyone of the leading proffessional scientific organizations that specialize in empirical studies would disagree with him. Like shown on this website which is a complete rebuttal to antigay claims. Based copmpletley logic and facts and their recources are non affiliated and non biased.

This denies many innocent minorities equality, which is unconstitutional. Along with many loving families with gay parents, their children are effected as well by being denied over a thousand legal protections. Gender variant people that are born neither male nor female will also be denied the right to equally marry. It doesn't treat humans as they really are.

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[luvmetender]

I work in the healthcare industry. What used to be called "Husband/Wife" coverage is now being called "Two-Person" coverage. I think the tide is changing but very slowly. Hopefully Bush won't pass some law that says only husbands and wives can get insurance coverage.

[Rockabillie]

Our constitution has always been about VALIDATING our RIGHTS, not eliminating rights.

I'm most worried that this one man (Bush) thinks he of all people ever in the history of this great nation has the right to change the nature of the US Constitution, from one granting it's citizens' rights, to one eliminating citizens' rights, the greatest document in living history. The arrogance of such a small man.

[whitequeen96]

Right on, Rockabillie! And welcome, GenBabe.

[cujo0123]

The Bible speaks against gays. Marriage IS ONLY between a real man and real woman. I say "real" because of all the sex change stuff. The Bible says this is immoral and common sense should say so too. I'm very happy Bush is against gay marriage. I respect him for keeping his values and the values of those who wrote the constitution.

[whitequeen96]

This country was founded on freedom of religion. In case you forget, cujo0123, not everyone believes in the Bible. (There are even many Christians who believe that it was affected by the times in which it was written, especially the Old Testament.)

Your religion finds gay marriage abhorrent; therefore, you will not enter into a gay marriage. Hindus believe eating beef is abhorrent; therefore, they do not eat it. It is up to the individual to follow his religious beliefs, NOT for the government to dictate which religious beliefs all must follow.

I must also point out that not even all Christians feel the same way about homosexuality. Many, such as I, do not follow what the Old Testament said about it. As Christians (not "Old Testamentians") we follow what Christ/Jesus, in the New Testament, said about it!

[luvmetender]

Originally Posted by cujo0123

The Bible speaks against gays.

The Bible condemns:
homosexual rape (Genesis 19),
homosexual ritual sex in Pagan temples (two passages in Leviticus),
homosexual prostitution (many places in the Old Testament)
men molesting boys (1 Corinthians 6)
heterosexuals engaged in homosexual behavior (Romans 1)
men engaging in bestiality with angels (Jude 7)

But the Bible is silent on same-gender sexual activity within a committed relationship.

[trust no one]

Originally Posted by cujo0123

The Bible speaks against gays. Marriage IS ONLY between a real man and real woman. I say "real" because of all the sex change stuff. The Bible says this is immoral and common sense should say so too. I'm very happy Bush is against gay marriage. I respect him for keeping his values and the values of those who wrote the constitution.

The Bible and the Qur’an prohibit the eating of pork. Muslims are aware of this ban and observe it rigorously. However, most readers of the Bible say they do not know where they can find this in the Bible.

In the book of Leviticus, chapter 11, v. 7, it is recorded that God declares the pig to be unclean for believers. Then, in verse 8, God says: “You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you.” This command is repeated in Deuteronomy 14:7-8. Then, in Isaiah 65:2-4, and 66:17, God issues a stern warning against those who eat pork.

I trust that you follow this tenet, handed down by God, and never eat pork.
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[Debbie42]

Originally Posted by trust no one

The Bible and the Qur’an prohibit the eating of pork. Muslims are aware of this ban and observe it rigorously. However, most readers of the Bible say they do not know where they can find this in the Bible.

In the book of Leviticus, chapter 11, v. 7, it is recorded that God declares the pig to be unclean for believers. Then, in verse 8, God says: “You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you.” This command is repeated in Deuteronomy 14:7-8. Then, in Isaiah 65:2-4, and 66:17, God issues a stern warning against those who eat pork.

I trust that you follow this tenet, handed down by God, and never eat pork.
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ACTS 10
9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour: 10And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance, 11And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth: 12Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air. 13And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. 14But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. 15And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. 16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.
The King James Version, (Cambridge: Cambridge) 1769.

[cujo0123]

I do not eat pork or any other unclean meat it is against my religion to do so. I am a SDA.


The 10 commandments influenced the constitution. Christians founded our country. Very simple!

The Bible says:
Romans 1:26-27, NIV. "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion."

Leviticus 18:22, TLB. "Homosexuality is absolutely forbidden, for it is an enormous sin."

I Corinthians 6:9, TLB. "Don't you know that those doing such things have no share in the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who live immoral lives, who are idol worshippers, adulterers or homosexuals—will have no share in his kingdom."

luvmetender, the Bible is very clear.
This is wrong! A country founded on Christian beliefs and with a Christian majority should agree that a marriage is between 2 people....male and female.....is the only marriage.

[luvmetender]

Originally Posted by cujo0123

luvmetender, the Bible is very clear.
This is wrong! A country founded on Christian beliefs and with a Christian majority should agree that a marriage is between 2 people....male and female.....is the only marriage.

Actually, I don't think the Bible is clear at all, and I really don't care because to me it is a collection of fairy tales.

I also happen to agree with you. I do think that marriage should be between a male and female, but I think that way for reasons based on science, not religion. Having children is the only reason to get married.

[jsalba]

Originally Posted by luvmetender

Actually, I don't think the Bible is clear at all, and I really don't care because to me it is a collection of fairy tales.

I also happen to agree with you. I do think that marriage should be between a male and female, but I think that way for reasons based on science, not religion. Having children is the only reason to get married.

So, what you are saying is that the only reason one should marry is for pro-creation? Perhaps you should look a little closer to home to see if what you are saying could possibly be a tremendous contradiction. Know what I mean?

[Rockabillie]

bible NOT EQUAL Constitution.

Great documents each.

Both well respected.

BUT NOT THE SAME!!!!!

They serve VERY DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS and if you don't know the difference, ask a 4th grader.

[Rockabillie]

The bible condones beating your wife and sl*****, so I don't really put much stock in blindly following what is says without understanding the context and WHO said it. I pay A LOT more attention to what Jesus said than other people in the bible.

[Mom2Serve]

Originally Posted by Rockabillie

The bible condones beating your wife and sl*****, so I don't really put much stock in blindly following what is says without understanding the context and WHO said it. I pay A LOT more attention to what Jesus said than other people in the bible.

Do you have a Biblical reference for that - My Bible seems to have deleted that verse!?!? That also seems abit like an oxymoron - Since the Bible is ALL about Jesus....................