Conservative pundit arrogance

[trust no one]

On November 30, as President Bush visited Canada to meet with Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin in an effort to improve the two countries' strained relations, right-wing pundit Ann (no footnotes)Coulter and CNN Crossfire co-host Tucker (I'll eat my shoe if Hillary sells a million books) Carlson ridiculed the United States' northern neighbor. On FOX News Channel's Hannity & Colmes, Coulter said that Canadians "better hope the United States doesn't roll over one night and crush them. They are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent." On CNN's Wolf Blitzer Reports, Carlson stated: "Without the U.S., Canada is essentially Honduras, but colder and much less interesting"; he went on to say that instead of following politics, "the average Canadian is busy dog sledding." And on Crossfire, Carlson referred to the "limpid, flaccid nature of Canadian society."

From the November 30 edition of FOX News' Hannity & Colmes:

COULTER: Conservatives, as a general matter, take the position that you should not punish your friends and reward your enemies. And Canada has become trouble recently.

It's -- I suppose it's always, I might add, the worst Americans who end up going there. The Tories after the Revolutionary War, the Vietnam draft dodgers after Vietnam. And now after this election, you have the blue-state people moving up there.


COULTER: There is also something called, when you're allowed to exist on the same continent of the United States of America, protecting you with a nuclear shield around you, you're polite and you support us when we've been attacked on our own soil. They [Canada] violated that protocol.

COULTER: They better hope the United States doesn't roll over one night and crush them. They are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent.

COULTER: We could have taken them [Canada] over so easily.

ALAN COLMES: We could have taken them over? Is that what you want?

COULTER: Yes, but no. All I want is the western portion, the ski areas, the cowboys, and the right-wingers.

COULTER: They don't even need to have an army, because they are protected, because they're on the same continent with the United States of America. If we were not the United States of America, Canada -- I mean, we're their trading partner. We keep their economy afloat.

ELLIS HENICAN [Newsday columnist]: We share a lot of culture and a lot of interests. Why do we want to have to ridicule them and be deeply offended if they disagree with us?

COULTER: Because they speak French.

COLMES: There's something else I want to point out about the French. Is it's fashionable again on your side to denounce the French.

COULTER: We like the English-speaking Canadians.

From the November 30 edition of CNN's Wolf Blitzer Reports:

CARLSON: Without the U.S., Canada is essentially Honduras, but colder and much less interesting.

CARLSON: We exploit your [addressing Canadian Member of Parliament Carolyn Parrish] natural resources, that's true. But in the end, Canadians with ambition move to the United States. That has been sort of the trend for decades. It says something not very good about Canada. And I think it makes Canadians feel bad about themselves and I understand that.

CARLSON: Canada needs the United States. The United States does not need Canada.

CARLSON: I think if Canada were responsible for its own security -- you would be invaded by Norway if it weren't for the United States.

CARLSON: [A]bsolutely the countries will remain allies and there will always be politicians who see it to their benefit to stomp on Bush dolls [referring to action taken by Parrish]. But no, I don't think the average Canadian feels -- the average Canadian is busy dog sledding.

PARRISH: No, there's not a lot of dog sledding. There's a lot of dog walking, my friend. Not a lot of dog sledding.

CARLSON: Welcome to our century.

From the November 30 edition of CNN's Crossfire:

CARLSON: Canada's essentially -- essentially a made-in-Taiwan version of the United States.

CARLSON: I'm surprised there was anybody left in Canada to attend the protests. I noticed that most sort of vigorous, ambitious Canadians, at least almost all comedians in Canada, come to the United States in the end. Doesn't that tell you something about the sort of limpid, flaccid nature of Canadian society, that people with ambition come here? What does that tell you about Canada?

[hrdlife1]

Wow...that's just insane. They must really REALLY not like Canada. They took South Park's song "Blame Canada" a little too much to heart LOL!

[prism68]

Coulter rocks

Sorry, but she is funny.
I love to watch her interviews 'cause she will just say whatever, making her much more entertaining than your average talk-show guest.

Same with Zell Miller; it is so unheard of to state an unpopular opinion out loud now that when these two talk- it just upsets everybodys apple cart.

Anyway, I think Coulter is about the Right's best response to fools like Michael Moore- she would slay him in a one-on-one conversation.

Besides, my real question is: What is wrong with them criticizing Canada and France? Don't these countries make a hobby out of blasting us lately?
Not to mention all the good ol' American Libs that go around trashing the U.S. on the international stage- geez, why the double standard?

[crazytimes]

You have to understand trust no one, that is part of Ann Coulters gimmick! She WANTS to come off as shocking/offensive/whatever because that is what intrigues people about her. I also thing she uses a lot of sarcasm; just take what she says like a grain of salt.

I personally don't like her. I think most of what she says doesn't come off as respectable and just sounds rude and idiotic IMO. Trust me I love sarcasm, but sometimes I think she is being serious when I think she is being sarcastic.

[luvmetender]

Originally Posted by crazytimes

but sometimes I think she is being serious when I think she is being sarcastic.

[trust no one]

Originally Posted by prism68

Coulter rocks


Anyway, I think Coulter is about the Right's best response to fools like Michael Moore- she would slay him in a one-on-one conversation.

Besides, my real question is: What is wrong with them criticizing Canada and France? Don't these countries make a hobby out of blasting us lately?
Not to mention all the good ol' American Libs that go around trashing the U.S. on the international stage- geez, why the double standard?

Civil discourse is fine, however some of the comments Ms. Coulter, and Mr. Carlson made were stereotypical and insulting to all Canadians. But, more importantly, many comments those two clowns made were just plain wrong. Surprise, Ann, The western most province is Vancouver, and it is also the most liberal. As we all know, Canada did support us after 9-11,and they have troops right now in Afghanistan. However, the Canadian government didn’t support our premise that Iraq was an immediate threat and had to be invaded right away. (Who turned out to be correct on that one?)

Tucker, to say the average Canadian is “busy dog sledding,” is akin to saying the average American dog sleds because there are dog sleds in Alaska. I would bet the average Canadian has never set foot on a dog sled. There are also, plenty of Canadians with ambition that stay in Canada.

To disseminate misinformation like this is irresponsible, foolish and dangerous. But hey, Ms. Coulter proved in her books she could twist the truth and use wicked extractions with the best of them.

[blueaguave]

the interior Rocky Mountain West of Canada, similar to the USA, is more right-wing and cowboy than the West Coast. They have rodeos, pro wrestling and oil towns.
Anyway, this Coulter is WAY funnier than Tucker Carlson. No wonder Fox is clobbering CNN in the ratings.

[trust no one]

Originally Posted by blueaguave

the interior Rocky Mountain West of Canada, similar to the USA, is more right-wing and cowboy than the West Coast. They have rodeos, pro wrestling and oil towns.
Anyway, this Coulter is WAY funnier than Tucker Carlson. No wonder Fox is clobbering CNN in the ratings.

I have been to both Alberta and Manitoba, and know their political leanings. The one thing that is pretty panoptic is their respect and love of the Canadian Universal Health Care System.

[luvmetender]

Originally Posted by trust no one

panoptic

Ah! My new vocab word of the week... Thanks!!

[trust no one]

Originally Posted by luvmetender

Ah! My new vocab word of the week... Thanks!!

It is a good word; easily discernable, and not used in everyday conversation.

[prism68]

Originally Posted by trust no one

Civil discourse is fine, however some of the comments Ms. Coulter, and Mr. Carlson made were stereotypical and insulting to all Canadians. But, more importantly, many comments those two clowns made were just plain wrong. ...
To disseminate misinformation like this is irresponsible, foolish and dangerous. But hey, Ms. Coulter proved in her books she could twist the truth and use wicked extractions with the best of them.

Sorry, I just can't mount enough energy to be worried over this- the whole thing just seems to me like a right-wing (and way more entertaining) response to Michael Moore. Every ill thing you said of Coulter could be magnified to the umpteenth degree and still not scratch the true depravity of Moore.

[trust no one]

Originally Posted by prism68

Sorry, I just can't mount enough energy to be worried over this- the whole thing just seems to me like a right-wing (and way more entertaining) response to Michael Moore. Every ill thing you said of Coulter could be magnified to the umpteenth degree and still not scratch the true depravity of Moore.

Remember when Ms. Coulter kept saying to the press "Check the footnotes," refering to the validity of the arguments she made in her book? The funny part of the whole thing was THERE WERE NO FOOTNOTES anywhere in the book!

[blueaguave]

Michael Moore and Ann Coulter should hook up and marry, the opposites attract schtick. Maybe in a few years, when both their ratings are fading, and new "pundits" are on the rise

[luvmetender]

I still maintain my theory that Ann Coulter is a man in drag.

[blueaguave]

Originally Posted by luvmetender

I still maintain my theory that Ann Coulter is a man in drag.

actually, I have talked to some guys about Coulters' appearance. I am in the minority apparently who DOESN'T find her hot. One guy I know, he is really left wing, but he thinks Ann Coulter is really hot.
I just find her too thin, no womanly curves. Maybe she needs to go on a high carb/high fat diet or something