reverse hate crime in Minesotta hunting incident

[blueaguave]

actually, I am against so-called hate crime laws (there should be harsh penalities for crimes, regardless of who does it to whom), but if a white hunter shot 6 Asian-American hunters, I am sure there would be a field day of massive coverage by the mainstream media, yet this story is hardly being covered.

[trust no one]

Originally Posted by blueaguave

actually, I am against so-called hate crime laws (there should be harsh penalities for crimes, regardless of who does it to whom), but if a white hunter shot 6 Asian-American hunters, I am sure there would be a field day of massive coverage by the mainstream media, yet this story is hardly being covered.

Are you referring to deadly shootings in Wisconsin?

I don’t understand why you contend the story has been hardly covered. I was in Milwaukee and Green Bay two weeks ago and it was heavily covered in the newspapers and radio up there. I then went to Chicago and saw several news items in the Tribune on the investigation. Yesterday morning, NPR’s Morning Edition did a full three minute piece on the charging of Mr. Vang, and played Sawyer County Sherif Jim Meier’s statement to the Press in it’s entirety.

This story has not been buried by the press.

[Debbie42]

They are still talking about it here in OK.

[tlspiegel]

Blue, the news is huge. It's not going awol.

[crazytimes]

We heard about this in Nebraska. I've also read stories online and seen this covered on CNN and our local news.

[telos2000]

I don't think that is true. Even the Waco Tribune, the most liberal paper in Texas outside of the Austin Statesman, is still reporting on it.

[blueaguave]

OK, I misspoke. It IS receiving massive coverage. What I meant to say that the coverage is different than it would be if a white hunter shot 6 Asian-American hunters in the back, only one of which was armed. It would be covered as a so-called hate crime.
That is the issue I would like to raise. What is a so-called hate crime. I recall when Gov GW Bush rightfully put to death the pickup dragging racist killers, he was still criticized for not supporting so-called hate crimes legislation in Texas, even though he vigorously advocated the death penalty for the racist killers.
Can anyone honestly dispute that the tone of the coverage would be far different if the racial make up was reversed, and Should there be hate crimes laws at all?
Thanks.

[telos2000]

That's true, how dead is dead? Can you be deader under hate crime laws? LOL

[crazytimes]

Yes it would be different. White peopel make up 75% of this country so I guess it just "looks worse" if it were a white person doing it. Nothing you can do about it and its not as if this guy is going to get off scott free just because he is a minority. In fact I would say it's the opposite in many cases.

I don't understand this hate crimes legislation. A murder is a murder regardless if you are black or white, gay or straight, Christian or Muslim.

Aren't we trying to move FORWARD in this country as in stop focusing on our differences in race, orientation, religion, etc.?

[Shainie]

I think this guy would have shot anyone that day - no matter what color they where.

For a moment they were trying to say that the people who were shot were being racist - that they called him racial slurs. (I think Vang claimed this, but maybe later changed the story?)

Someone always pulls the race card when they can. Like "Oh, they called you such-and-such? I guess you were justified to kill them all then".

[trust no one]

Originally Posted by blueaguave

OK, I misspoke. It IS receiving massive coverage. What I meant to say that the coverage is different than it would be if a white hunter shot 6 Asian-American hunters in the back, only one of which was armed. It would be covered as a so-called hate crime.
That is the issue I would like to raise. What is a so-called hate crime. I recall when Gov GW Bush rightfully put to death the pickup dragging racist killers, he was still criticized for not supporting so-called hate crimes legislation in Texas, even though he vigorously advocated the death penalty for the racist killers.
Can anyone honestly dispute that the tone of the coverage would be far different if the racial make up was reversed, and Should there be hate crimes laws at all?
Thanks.

So, it was Wisconsin?

[luvmetender]

Originally Posted by crazytimes

Aren't we trying to move FORWARD in this country as in stop focusing on our differences in race, orientation, religion, etc.?

You're kidding, right?

The right is trying to move us BACKWARDS by INCREASING the focus on differences in orientation and religion!

[blueaguave]

Originally Posted by trust no one

So, it was Wisconsin?

how the **** do I know? It really has nothing to do with the point about hate crimes and racial identity politics in the media

[trust no one]

Originally Posted by blueaguave

how the **** do I know? It really has nothing to do with the point about hate crimes and racial identity politics in the media

When presenting an argument, and using a real world example, it is important to have the facts straight.

[Shainie]

Yes, it happened in Wisconsin, the shooter - Vang - is from Minnesota.