Clinton Hails Kerry in Surgery Comeback

[mrbowler]

I'm surprised clinton was able to make it back from McSurgery. J/K


Clinton Hails Kerry in Surgery Comeback:

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"While Kerry delivered his stump speech, Clinton quietly critiqued him. "That's pretty good," he said to Rep. Chaka Fattah, D-Pa., when Kerry said America needs a president who can do more than one thing at a time."

[luvmetender]

It amazes me that some rightwingers are continuing to insist that the Clintons secretly don't want Kerry to win. Yeah, right, that is why Bill is out looking thin and pale only 7 weeks after his surgery to give his best stuff for Kerry. He had the perfect excuse NOT to campaign, yet there he is.

[monkee]

I saw part of this yesterday. Clinton was spouting off about the "job losses" under the Bush administration. But from everything I've heard, the unemployment rate is either right at or a bit lower than it was when Clinton was elected to his second term. I guess he expects Bush to do better than he could?

[mrbowler]

Originally Posted by monkee

I saw part of this yesterday. Clinton was spouting off about the "job losses" under the Bush administration. But from everything I've heard, the unemployment rate is either right at or a bit lower than it was when Clinton was elected to his second term. I guess he expects Bush to do better than he could?

How many jobs were created under the Clinton Presidency compared to Bush Presidency?

Yep all the jobs created were a internet bubble

Or how about using the household survey

[monkee]

Originally Posted by mrbowler

How many jobs were created under the Clinton Presidency compared to Bush Presidency?

Yep all the jobs created were a internet bubble

Or how about using the household survey

I'm not sure about the question of how many jobs were created, but again, Clinton was benefited by the dot com boom and a lot of jobs were lost when that bubble burst. He also didn't have to contend with the aftermath of a major terrorist attack and war efforts. I'd say, all things considered, Bush is doing pretty well when it comes to jobs, compared to Clinton. And I don't buy for one minute that Kerry's going to "create" millions of jobs. Presidents don't create jobs, businesses do. Although the presidents sure like to take credit for it when it happens. Notwithstanding the fact that Kerry's plan is a bit fuzzy (read: nonexistent).

[mayfly]

President Bush pulled our economy out of possible disaster. What were we all thinking September 12th? People were speculating that we would never recover back to the way we were after the terrorist attacks. Everyone was warning others that our stock market was going to crash. The big deal was "just buy one share". Then after that there was the poision in the mail scare, and then snipers. No one wanted to open their mail, people were scared to let their kids go to the mailbox. People were scared about being gunned down by some unknown sniper.

President Bush took all that and brought us to a place that is normal and stable. We are shopping normally, our kids get the mail. We feel safe. Home Owners are at an all time high right now. He made sure there were jobs, all those jobs taken away during the HUGE wake of September 11th have pretty much evened out.

A vote for Kerry is saying you think you are getting too much money in your paychecks, and want more taken out to support public assistance. Its not a vote for jobs.

[chippers21]

Originally Posted by monkee

I'm not sure about the question of how many jobs were created, but again, Clinton was benefited by the dot com boom and a lot of jobs were lost when that bubble burst. He also didn't have to contend with the aftermath of a major terrorist attack and war efforts. I'd say, all things considered, Bush is doing pretty well when it comes to jobs, compared to Clinton. And I don't buy for one minute that Kerry's going to "create" millions of jobs. Presidents don't create jobs, businesses do. Although the presidents sure like to take credit for it when it happens. Notwithstanding the fact that Kerry's plan is a bit fuzzy (read: nonexistent).

Nailed my thoughts exactly.

[mrbowler]

Originally Posted by monkee

I'm not sure about the question of how many jobs were created, but again, Clinton was benefited by the dot com boom and a lot of jobs were lost when that bubble burst. He also didn't have to contend with the aftermath of a major terrorist attack and war efforts. I'd say, all things considered, Bush is doing pretty well when it comes to jobs, compared to Clinton. And I don't buy for one minute that Kerry's going to "create" millions of jobs. Presidents don't create jobs, businesses do. Although the presidents sure like to take credit for it when it happens. Notwithstanding the fact that Kerry's plan is a bit fuzzy (read: nonexistent).

Yes-some very valid points that I agree with-maybe not to the extent that you do. The biggest concern IMO is that the economy is not generating enough jobs-you need approx. 150,000 jobs per month in order to absorb labor force growth, and of course the usual arguement that the quality of jobs is less then desired. Then when you take into account the amount of jobs Bush promised with the tax cuts compared to what is happening, and you realize how poorly things are stacking up. Is the President fully to blame..of course not.
Like it or not the President gets the credit or blame. You are correct that businesses create jobs, but Government policy does play a factor. One of the main reason's IMO that Clinton was able to produce such good results was that he & congress were able to only increase non-defense related spending by around 3-3.5% while bush & congress was around 10.5% for non-defense if memory is correct. Also other factors such as the distribution of tax cuts, economic cycle, terrorist events, and many other factors.

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Longest peacetime economic expansion in history, creating over 20 million new jobs

20.4 million new jobs -- the most created by any Administration and more new jobs than were created from 1981-1992. The economy has added an average of 245,000 jobs per month, the highest of any President on record.



You never know-the next president might be sitting on a similiar situation of the next best thing to come along...nanotechnology