Would You Put Up With This Regarding Your Children?

[bobbcat]

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This article covers some reasons among many that the NEA should be abolished.

[prism68]

Originally Posted by bobbcat

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This article covers some reasons among many that the NEA should be abolished.

This article also makes the case for Bush's "No Child Left Behind" act, particularly the part about being able to remove unruly children from classrooms.

My daughter's designated school is also "designated as failing under state and federal standards for more than three years."

Thank God I am able to teach her at home; the last year that she was in public school there were 3 bomb threats plus a man with a gun. She was only a third grader! I'd pick her up in the afternoons and she'd be crying and the teachers were like, "She is over-reacting"
Hello?!

[doglover22]

No, I would not put up with a school like that but, since we are home schooling our daughter, we won't have to worry about it. Even though the school my daughter would have attended was nothing like those described in the article, I will continue to do everything in my power to make sure that she never sets foot in a public school (or private one for that matter). I feel so sorry for the kids that have to go, day after day, to a place where they feel scared. How are they supposed to learn anything??

[crazytimes]

I definitely would not put up with it and was shocked to see that. If these schools want to play hardball....BRING IT ON.

Seriously if I were them I would contact every law agency in the city and inform and maybe one of them would pick up the case pro-bono just to make light of the problem. I feel so bad for these teachers too.

What the **** is wrong with kids these days and parents? I swear if we taxes STUPID PEOPLE we would pay off the national debt quick as a wink.

[mayfly]

lol crazytimes

[blueaguave]

this ties in to the point about libertarian in the other thread..big brother basically takes your money at gunpoint (you can be jailed for not paying taxes)..then uses your own money to offend you..btw, can anyone answer why the Republicans have controlled Congress for almost 10 years, yet big government boondoggles like NEA have not only NOT been eliminated, if anything domestic programs are being wildly expanded by the so-called conservative Bush and his party in Congress..it almost makes me want to "throw away my vote" and vote Libertarian!

[blueaguave]

Originally Posted by doglover22

No, I would not put up with a school like that but, since we are home schooling our daughter, we won't have to worry about it. Even though the school my daughter would have attended was nothing like those described in the article, I will continue to do everything in my power to make sure that she never sets foot in a public school (or private one for that matter). I feel so sorry for the kids that have to go, day after day, to a place where they feel scared. How are they supposed to learn anything??

the purpose of schools is not to teach thinking skills. It is to teach them conformity. That is why the left and even most "mainstream moderate" Republicans hate home schoolers..it is a threat to the whole victimization/socialism/conformity indoctrination machine

[prism68]

Originally Posted by blueaguave

the purpose of schools is not to teach thinking skills. It is to teach them conformity. That is why the left and even most "mainstream moderate" Republicans hate home schoolers..it is a threat to the whole victimization/socialism/conformity indoctrination machine

I don't think anyone dislikes the homeschool movement as much as the NEA
They do all they can to stifle us, but I don't see any end in sight to the exponential growth of this population. Ivy League colleges now actively recruit these kids, admission laws are being changed to better accomodate these children, etc..

[bobbcat]

They do all they can to stifle us, but I don't see any end in sight to the exponential growth of this population. Ivy League colleges now actively recruit these kids, admission laws are being changed to better accomodate these children, etc..

That is encouraging news. In the meantime though, I wonder why more isn't being done to stifle this horrid trend in the public school system of tolerating antisocial and destructive behavior. I wonder how these people function when they grow up. Surely the NEA is a huge stumbling block. It is too bad that the Pubs in Congress and the Bush administration has not done more to, at the very least, take the teeth out of this organization. It is quite obvious the NEA does not have the students' interests as a priority, or none of this nonsense would be going on.

[prism68]

Originally Posted by bobbcat

... I wonder why more isn't being done to stifle this horrid trend in the public school system of tolerating antisocial and destructive behavior. ...It is quite obvious the NEA does not have the students' interests as a priority, or none of this nonsense would be going on.

THAT is the question of the hour, I think!

The NEA has made an official resolution condemning homeschool, yet studies show homeschoolers are on average 4 grade levels above public-schooled peers by 8th grade.
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Why doesn't the NEA (or anyone with Educational interests) try looking at why homeschooling IS so successful and then follow that model in the school system?

[monkee]

Originally Posted by prism68

Why doesn't the NEA (or anyone with Educational interests) try looking at why homeschooling IS so successful and then follow that model in the school system?

It's the "anyone with educational interests" part that answers your own question! Since when is the NEA interested in education? They're interested in protecting and supporting their members, not the students they're supposed to teach.

The NEA is a union. I don't think I've ever heard of any union that was more interested in the quality of the product produced by their members than they were in what they could get for their members.

[prism68]

Originally Posted by monkee

It's the "anyone with educational interests" part that answers your own question!

LOL...so true... brain lapse moment on my part

[doglover22]

Honestly, I know very little about the NEA or its policies. What I do know is that IMO, the school system in this country is failing our children. I heard the other day that something like 80% of people cannot read above a 10th grade level (sorry, I don't have a source for that). That is sad. The home school movement is getting larger and larger every year. I believe that it is growing at a rate of 2-3% per year. It is a method that works and there are so many resources out there you can find something that will work with EVERY child.

Allow me to brag about my daughter for a minute. We enrolled her in a Catholic home school program that includes a full curriculum. We started on July 26 (at her request) and will be completely finished with the full 36 week course on October 22. She did a full school years worth of work in three months. We are not talking about eight hour days, either. At most, we spent 1.5 hours a day. Most days, we spend about 45 minutes on the work. We are going to take a break in November and December and start her on first grade in January. We know that she will not plow through the first grade like she did Kindergarten, but even if she goes at regular pace for the whole year, she will be starting second grade when her age level peers will have been in first grade for about a month or two. We are, of course, extremely proud of her.

[prism68]

Originally Posted by doglover22

Honestly, I know very little about the NEA or its policies. What I do know is that IMO, the school system in this country is failing our children. I heard the other day that something like 80% of people cannot read above a 10th grade level (sorry, I don't have a source for that). That is sad. The home school movement is getting larger and larger every year. I believe that it is growing at a rate of 2-3% per year. It is a method that works and there are so many resources out there you can find something that will work with EVERY child.

Allow me to brag about my daughter for a minute. We enrolled her in a Catholic home school program that includes a full curriculum. We started on July 26 (at her request) and will be completely finished with the full 36 week course on October 22. She did a full school years worth of work in three months. We are not talking about eight hour days, either. At most, we spent 1.5 hours a day. Most days, we spend about 45 minutes on the work. We are going to take a break in November and December and start her on first grade in January. We know that she will not plow through the first grade like she did Kindergarten, but even if she goes at regular pace for the whole year, she will be starting second grade when her age level peers will have been in first grade for about a month or two. We are, of course, extremely proud of her.

Congratulations on your daughter's progress

My students (I teach other children in my home besides my daughter, I have a Master's degree in Education) have made EXCEPTIONAL gains in the home environment.

Their parents were amazed last year when they made anywhere from 2-6 years progress (as measured on standardized tests) in the one school term, in Reading and Math.

As for my daughter, she is an 8th grader (skipped 7th due to already covering the required curriculum) and has been invited to take the S.A.T this December. She is enrolled in Duke University's "Talent Identification Program" and will participate in a 3 week summer intensive- I am sure this is a result of her homeschooling the last 4 years.
Her scores while in public school (up to 3rd grade) were in the average range- she is now reading Great Expectations for school and Jane Eyre for fun at the same time! She has also read Les Miserable (unabridged!) and memorized just about every musical that was ever produced.
She loves going to the Fox Theater in Atlanta to watch the musicals.

Okay, brag session over

[doglover22]

Wow, Prism! You have every right to brag about your daughter! How many other kids do you teach? Are they all on the same grade level?