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its over dude. The professors are liberal, the students are conservative. Outside places like Boston, NYC,Berkley, its almsot laughable to be a liberal anymore. Who cares about CBX. We have so many on our side now--shmuley.com, drudge, Rush, Fox News..even the washington Post is pretty balanced these days. And kudos to Ted Koppel, he spoke out against fradulent antics by Rather..keep on bloggin in the free world Mayor
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Nothing so stupid as arguing on a forum - unless it's maybe arguing in a news group. That said, the article is primarily about how a reporter went too far in the search for a sensational story - and got caught. It then goes on to use this as a basis as to why the "liberal establishment" (whatever that is) is about to fail. There are fools, idiots, whatever (including too-aggressive reporters) on all sides of the political spectrum. Using one to damn the rest is pretty easy - and just as meaningless. I certainly don't think Fox news is "fair and balanced" (laughably far from it) - and the National Review has (ahem) a bit of a slant as well. Just thinking that might put me in your "liberal establishment", even though I don't particularly think of myself as one... |
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Mayor, again, was acting like a fool for the Republicans. First, The New York Times has in fact apologized for the Jason Blair incident-something FOX NEWS has never done in their mis-reporting. Second, Are we not done with TNR? I mean, we all remember the "ties" between Osama and Saddam nonsense that they reported and you posted here on DoD as justification for going to war. Boy were you duped. Mayor, you need to apologize to all those you personally kicked off this board because they questioned the silly reports you actually believed and posted here on DoD. You were wrong, Mayor, it is time you admitted it.
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Hey everyone. Do you think "Mayor" should apologize for using this board to spread what turned out to be false information in order to justify the run up to the war? Do you recommend "Mayor" should reinstate all those he personally "banned" from this board for questioning "Mayor's" reposting TNR nonsense about "ties" between Iraq and Ossama? Should "Mayor" also admit he was duped to support going to war with Iraq by White House propaganda? Should Mayor apologize for deleting posts that truthfully challenged his own posts that supported going to war with Iraq? I understand "this board is not a democracy," (Mayor's words), but Mayor really went out of his way to squelch anyone questioning Iraq's WMDs, chemical labs, link to Ossama, etc. Do you think "Mayor" was abusive with his "selective" deletion policy?
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Mayor not only sent emails to those he banned telling them of the banning (my brother was one of them), he justified it to the complaining Mods by stating that he owned the board, and this board was NOT a democracy. Even if it were just the mods who did the banning, a hypothetical that has no basis in factual history, Mayor over the last several years has had the authority to remove the ban. He has not. What does this inaction tell you? Unfortunately the vitriol spread on this board towards "Libs" and "Dems" between 2001 and 2004 caused a lot of people to leave. One time, Mayor posted a connection between al Qaeda in Indonesia and the Iraqi army because names on two separate lists were "similar" to one another. Mayor boasted that the news was a "slam dunk" in justification for going to war (he got the story from the Weekly Standard who got the propaganda from the White House). This justification stayed up for a month here on DoD. When the Washington Post published a piece discrediting the story completely, my brother posted it on Mayor's thread. Then, the entire thread was removed quickly. My brother complained that pro-war misinformation was allowed to stay up for a month, but as soon as that information was discredited, the whole thread was removed. He complained that many on DoD were only able to see the propaganda and not the whole story. My brother was banned immediately. Look at the above thread Mayor posted, and the others that somehow survived. Can you see the "attitude" Mayor disseminated back then toward "libs," "dems," and the antiwar crowd? Can you see how Mayor used this board to spread nonsense propaganda? Look at Telos' "duh" thread; who is really saying "duh, duh duh..." about the reasons for going to war with Iraq, now? The MO for Mayor and many of his mods back in 2001-2004 was to attack the "libs" and the "dems" any chance they could. How many anti John Kerry myths did Mayor post before the 2004 election (John kerry Hangs Himself Again," was a common title for a Mayor posting) ? Do you remember thread "Liberals; hide your head in the sand"? Someone simply made up a news story, and Mayor came to the conclusion that the story was correct and posted it with his own commentary slamming "liberals" in the process. Well, mayor, the story wasn't true. Are you going to apologize to all the liberals who were upset over your mean spirited partisan tactics (including banning) toward them back in the day? Doubt it. It would be nice if Mayor would apologize to my brother and the others who were treated so badly here on DoD, and remove the ban, but I doubt he will. I don't believe my brother will be returning, anyway. Most of the people that were here on DoD he enjoyed communicating with are gone, most likely because the treatment and name calling they received from Mayor, Telos2000, Jeskibuff, and the few other conservative loud mouth propagandists that are "hiding their heads in the sand" now. Did you read that Telos really still thinks lots of other countries thought Iraq had WMD's and were building more?! That's what you get when Fox News Channel is your official information source. Mr. Mayor is more than welcome to respond, and I respectively ask he do so in non politically mean spirited way. Telos hasn't apologized, Jeskibuff hasn't apologized, I doubt "Mayor" will apologize. Dale Carnegie states "when you are wrong admit it quickly and clearly." I hope mayor sees an apoligy and reinstatement as the "right" thing to do.
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FunDUHmental, your bombastic arrogance never ceases to amaze! Your absolute ignorance is beyond belief! How can you possibly live with yourself? I suppose if you ever dared to be honest about your beliefs, you'd see what a total hypocrite you are, but sadly, honesty is not something you're at all familiar with. Maybe someday you'll be enlightened, but it appears you're still rather entrenched in Mikey Mooron World. You first have to be willing to give up your priority: that personal agenda that is built on a foundation of sand. Every liberal has one and each requires falsehoods to keep it floating. That is the only thing that unifies Democrats: they all need this "foundation of lies" to protect what is most valuable to them. Conservatism undermines that foundation because it is based on common sense, truth and morality. My only "apoligy" (sic) is that I don't have the time to tear every one of your stupid beliefs to shreds. Each one is predicated on some lie that you choose to believe is true, but to admit it to be a lie would undermine your whole belief system. Until that happens, I suppose you'll have to continue to live in the land of denial that is the place where all liberals find their safe haven.
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Hi Jesk, please no name calling, it is against the TOS. How's the President doing these days? Did we get rid of all the Iraqi WMD's the President warned us about?
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You should also be in full agreement with Rosie - that steel has NEVER melted before. I mean, since you've decided to stick with the idiotic "did knowingly lie and mislead" mantra, you might as well put the stupidity pedal all the way to the metal!
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...back on the main subject (even though this thread started way back in 2004!! ...the liberal establishment is losing BIG TIME over their Sarah Palin attacks! I was encouraged/delighted/amazed to read all 19 pages of a thread on Hillary Clinton's website, of all places. LIVE: Republican Convention, Day 3 (Sep 3, 200 : all discussion here please - Sarah Palin Speech, etc. - www.hillaryclintonforum.net So far, there are over 900 posts by Hillary Clinton lovers who are fed up with what their Democratic Party has become. They're angry about the nomination of the unqualified poseur and anointed Obamessiah. They're angry about the treatment Hillary got at the convention, from the bogus roll call to the hateful look on Michelle Obama's face as Hillary spoke. They're disgusted at their party's nomination of "elitists" like Obama and Kerry. More than that, the thread was a play-by-play as they watched Wednesday night's RNC speeches. They were delighted when Rudy tore Obama a new oral anifice (sic). Then when Sarah Palin came on, they were absolutely ecstatic! They were disgusted at how their party attempted to denigrate Sarah by blaming her for her daughter's pregnancy. They were appalled at the attempt to attribute Trig's birth as the result of a father-daughter union between Todd and Bristol. Their Democratic pals made a HUGE mistake with those slanders! What will be their next desperate move? You certainly probably have never seen THESE videos of Obama's drunken VP pick: [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now] [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now] ...and certainly though they thought Bristol was fair game, there wasn't much said about the multiple arrests of Biden's daughter, was there? [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now] These Hillary lovers saw how strong and genuine Sarah was. Although they still prefer Hillary to McCain (God knows why?), they're SOLIDLY in the McCain/Palin camp now. Who knows how many millions of others share their sentiments? If representative of the population, the Obama/Biden ticket is in BIG trouble! This may not be another Bush/Gore or Bush/Kerry nail-biter. These people are realizing that the Obama team is an empty promise and the real substance is in the McCain/Palin team! Not only that, but they're FINALLY seeing how the media wants to twist the truth in every manner to get Obama into office. One poster calls him/herself "I hate CNN and NBC", and others obviously recognize the propaganda those networks are guilty of. Some are calling themselves "DemMcCrats" and others say "Republicans are the NEW Democrats". Maybe it's not a wholesale conversion, but it appears their eyes are finally being opened to the liberal double-standards. They're becoming aware of who the bad guys really are, and that's REALLY ENCOURAGING! The liberal establishment suffered a BIG defeat over the last week, but they're still too well established. Here's hoping there will be more self-destruction on the slate over the next two months. ...and knowing there were some limerick-lovers on this site years ago, I'll post this set I wrote and posted on ConservativeUnderground in a thread started by Elspeth (who declares herself a Hillary afficianado who is now voting for McCain/Palin): [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now] For the White House the Dims sure do long But it's tough 'cause they're always so wrong Their mantra is "hope" But their brains are on dope Obama/Joe is the new Cheech & Chong Is Obama evil like Sauron? He's sure good at leading the poor on True, some think him smart; that he'll bring a new start But he's not all that bright (more like "moron") I'm sure he would take Al Gore's lead Adopting the "Inconvenient" screed The words of that chump will cost dear at the pump How much are you willing to bleed? Barack ridiculed Bush's surge "We must pull from Iraq" he did urge Bush's plan sure did work! Obama looks like a jerk Now he's scrambling for history's purge He also thinks jihad's a joke: "bin Laden's a regular bloke" "We just did him wrong" "Say, could you pass the bong?" "Or just let me take one more toke?" Could Obama develop some guts To get our wheels out of ruts? Can he heal racial tension? Get an honorable mention? Not while Jesse holds knife to his nuts! How much is this candidate worth? His followers are dancing in mirth While they're all in a lather Looks like dear old Dan Rather Printed up his certificate of birth With mentors like Davis and Wright Why even question why there is fright? It's true that his mommie Was a practicing commie Don't forget Ayers and Rezko! GOOD NIGHT! Believe in the man if you must He's not the kind I would trust He'll tax where he can That's his ENTIRE plan So no surprise when the nation goes bust! With Democrats mending their schism They'll get right into tax-and-spend rhythm Corporations will flee Move their "ops" over sea And those good-paying jobs will go with 'em Our economy will be all asunder The Dems will ponder and wonder Tax income will dwindle Who next can they swindle? Of course they'll blame Reps for their blunder Whiny Democrats scream like the banshee And insist that we follow their fancy Since their thought-deprived minions Foist their stupid opinions We end up with "leaders" like Nancy Too long have we heard "impeach Chimp!" Out of Rangel and other such pimp But fight some other day When your base is so gay (For you can't pack a punch with wrist limp!) The deluge of news you must master As events fly by ever faster You just should remember If Barack wins in November Prepare for ensuing disaster! To the polls in two months, do not tarry! Show Obama how we liked Gore and Kerry All three think they're heroes But each one's mental zeros More like Moe and Curly and Larry
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don't be blinded by ideology.
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