Live babies being born after abortions

[mayor]

More news from the dark underbelly of abortion...

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Live babies being born after abortions
By Rebecca Smith, Evening Standard Health Reporter
22 June 2004

Leading doctors today called for a major overhaul to avoid babies being born alive after abortions.

Pregnancy expert Professor Stuart Campbell has demanded rules should be tightened after it was revealed that at least nine babies are known to have survived terminations in recent years.

He said injections that were supposed to end their lives in the womb failed to do so - and he called for stricter regulations to be enforced on the methods of abortion.

Professor Campbell said that all abortions carried out after 18 weeks of pregnancy should include an injection, followed by drugs, to induce labour and a stillborn child.

Some consultants only give the injection in abortions after 22 weeks. Others, he claims, do not use it at all.

Professor Campbell, who worked as an obstetrician at St George's Hospital-Tooting, and pioneered 4D scanning of babies in the womb at the Create Health Centre for Reproduction and Advanced Technology in London, said: "It is really unfair on the nurses and the parents to see the baby making some sort of movement after birth.

"If after 18 weeks you just induce labour (without an injection first) a large number would be born with a heartbeat and most of them will survive with a heartbeat and will make movements.

"Certainly from 18 weeks they should inject the heart to stop it from beating, but not everyone does this. Guidance should be given by the Royal College.

"There are cases where the injection does not work but this is very rare."

One baby with Down's Syndrome was to be aborted at a hospital in the home counties but lived. It was transferred to St George's Hospital, where it received neonatal intensive care and survived. It is believed to have been adopted.

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My comments? The truth always outshines the darkness. The baby with Down's Syndrome was WANTED. There are people waiting to adopt those who are just discardable "tissue" by the more selfish people in this world.

The attrocity goes on, but the facts continue to surmount. Hopefully the day is not far when the unborn will be able to cry out in the words of the old negro spiritual, "free at last, free at last. Thanks God Almighty we are free at last"

Mayor

[bobbcat]

This stuff is just too disturbing for words. How do these women live with themselves? I know, rhetorical question. But lord have mercy.....

"It is really unfair on the nurses and the parents to see the baby making some sort of movement after birth.

Unfair. Unfair??

[luvmetender]

right-wing propaganda...

[auryn]

There are people waiting to adopt those who are just discardable "tissue" by the more selfish people in this world.

Then why are there so many kids in the foster care system that no one wants?

[mayfly]

You know, I was one of those kids in foster care. I THANK GOD I was given the right to live. Life isn't over at childhood, one can have a crappy childhood and have a wonderful life.

[mayor]

Originally Posted by luvmetender

right-wing propaganda...

There you go again. Another "no comment" comment, proving once again that you are not even remotely interested in exploring the truth. You see something that doesn't agree with your politics, hide your eyes and open your mouth.

Have you READ the piece?

This is a from a british newspaper, known for its liberal bent. They are talking about scientific facts related to attempted abortions being botched and the babies living through them.

Right-wing propaganda?

If you don't have something worthwhile to say, I suggest not even engaging your fingers. Because if this is why you wanted back in these forums, it ain't gonna last long.

Mayor

[mayor]

Originally Posted by auryn

Then why are there so many kids in the foster care system that no one wants?

I know of THREE couples right now that would do ANYTHING outside of illegal means to get a baby, Down's or otherwise.

If you are suggesting that population control is a valuable reason for abortion, you are not far off from Margaret Sanger and her views. Perhaps you should locate that piece I pointed you to a few weeks ago and see if that is who you really want to identify yourself with.

Incidentally, nice job skirting the topic of the thread. Perhaps you can address THAT head on?


Mayor

[CagedTroll]

Originally Posted by mayor

If you are suggesting that population control is a valuable reason for abortion, you are not far off from Margaret Sanger and her views. Perhaps you should locate that piece I pointed you to a few weeks ago and see if that is who you really want to identify yourself with.

"My views are one that speaks to freedom."---George W. Bush,1/29/04

Joel, how are you getting that one point of agreement with Sanger is equal to shared "views" (in the plural)...?

Also, getting to one of Sanger's other views, wasn't Prescott Bush involved in the whole eugenics craze at around the same period in history??? I THINK HE WAS!!! <nudge><nudge>

Interesting read, [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now], by Sanger, in 1920. It's actually quoted by the site you posted a few weeks ago..., out of context, of course.

[prism68]

Bobbcat quoted the same thing I was about to quote from that article...

"Professor Campbell said: "It is really unfair on the nurses and the parents to see the baby making some sort of movement after birth."

That whole line just killed me!
Let's see, these people get themselves pregnant irresponsibly in most cases... decide they are too immature or selfish to bring this baby to term... want to pay no consequence for their choices -then get upset to see THEIR baby not die well enough for them?!

[freesurfer]

Ok, here I come into this thread!! LOL!

Isn't there a certain time after which nothing can be done to stop the child from being born? Like after so many weeks?

I'd like to hear why Luv thinks its right wing what ever that word means!! LOL!! Can you explain for me Luv...

And as far as the poor nurses...someone should hit them along side the head for being involved in it!! IMO!!!

[luvmetender]

Originally Posted by freesurfer

I'd like to hear why Luv thinks its right wing what ever that word means!! LOL!! Can you explain for me Luv...

Sure...

Because first of all, 9 instances in an undisclosed amount of years. I agree that it is awful, but awful stuff happens, and 9 instances are not enough to be blaming abortion doctors. The right wing likes to bring up the minuscule amount of botched abortions and blow it up to suit their own agenda.

And second, this is just another tactic by the right to take the focus off of Iraq, where there have been over 800 American deaths for basically no reason.

[mayor]

Originally Posted by luvmetender

Because first of all, 9 instances in an undisclosed amount of years. I agree that it is awful, but awful stuff happens, and 9 instances are not enough to be blaming abortion doctors. The right wing likes to bring up the minuscule amount of botched abortions and blow it up to suit their own agenda.

Ok, I'll play. How many "back alley" abortions were there before abortion was legal, because this is always the huge threat to women that the left likes to drag out.

And second, this is just another tactic by the right to take the focus off of Iraq, where there have been over 800 American deaths for basically no reason.

I started laughing, and then I thought.. WAIT, she's SERIOUS!

You do realize these are two completely different issues? You also do realize that there are HUNDREDS of issues that people in our country deal with on a daily basis? Are they ALL distractions to take the focus off Iraq?

Part II. No reason? I suppose you support the wholesale slaughter of the Iraqi people by Saddam the Butcher of Baghdad? You like those torture chambers where they chopped hands of people, raped women and brutally killed children? Glad to know Saddam still has a fan.

We stand for LIBERTY, Luv. Every politician over the past 5-10 years has publicly stated that Saddam Hussein was suspected of having WMD and was a threat to our national security.

I know you don't want to be confused by the facts, but try it just once.. you may find you enjoy it!

[luvmetender]

Joel, your condescending post just makes me feel more justified in my views. First you tell me to say something, then you blast me... nice site you have here.

[prism68]

Originally Posted by luvmetender

... just another tactic by the right to take the focus off of Iraq, where there have been over 800 American deaths for basically no reason.

Hmmm, since 9/11 there have been approx. 3.7 million babies killed by abortion- for basically no reason.

[luvmetender]

prism, <sigh>

so what you are saying is that soldiers killed in combat are the same as aborted fetuses?