Attention Liberals: Hide head in sand now

[mayor]

How come you aren't hearing about THIS?

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Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:40 p.m. EDT
Jordan WMD Plotter Confesses to Iraqi Involvement

At least one of the al-Qaida plotters arrested in Jordan earlier this month as part of a weapons of mass destruction plot that Jordanian officials say could have killed 80,000 people revealed on Monday that he was trained in Iraq before the U.S. invaded in March 2003.

In a confession broadcast on Jordanian television, the unnamed WMD conspirator revealed: "In Iraq, I started training in explosives and poisons. I gave my complete obedience to [Abu Musab al] Zarqawi," the al-Qaida WMD specialist whose base of operations was in Iraq.

Excerpts from the WMD conspirator's confession broadcast by ABC's "Nightline" late Monday show that the WMD plot was planned and trained for in Iraq more than a year before the U.S. invasion, with the terror suspect admitting, "After the fall of Afghanistan, I met Zarqawi again in Iraq."

U.S. forces vanquished the Taliban government in Kabul in December 2001 - 15 months before the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

"Some of the details appear to be fairly significant in terms of the planning," reported "Nightline's" Chris Bury: "$170,000, a lot of meetings, getting instructions from people in Iraq, people inside Syria."

"This doesn't appear to be a mom-and-pop operation," he added.

Al-Zarqawi, who also ran a camp for Jordanian recruits in Afghanistan, has been linked to a series of terrorist plots, including the attack in Madrid last month, the bombing of the U.N. compound in Baghdad last summer, and the 2002 killing of an American diplomat in Jordan.

On Monday al-Zarqawi took credit for the attacks on Iraq's oil terminals in Basra over the weekend, "Nightline" said. The attack, though interrupted before it could do maximum damage, killed three U.S. soldiers.

The Jordan chem-bomb plot was to be executed in three stages, according to a video re-enactment released by Jordanian officials.

The first stage was to involve a car carrying several al-Qaida operatives, who would approach the gates of the Jordanian security service in Amman and gun down the facility's armed guards.

The car would be quickly followed by a specially equipped track laden with conventional explosives that would break through the security service gate and crash into the main building.

In the third stage, the plot called for three tanker trucks to follow the breakthrough vehicle, loaded with a combined total of 20 tons of chemical weapons laced with conventional explosives. One truck was to crash into the security headquarters, another the U.S. Embassy nearby. A third was to hit a building within a few hundred yards of the other two targets, the Jordanian video showed.

The ensuing cloud of poison gas could have killed 80,000 people, Jordanian officials said, an estimate that was revised upward from an anticipated death toll of 20,000 last week.

In film footage broadcast by "Nightline," Jordanian television showed hundreds of plastic containers that had been removed from the trucks that Jordanian officials said were filled with chemical weapons.

Jordan's King Abdullah said last week that the five trucks originated from Syria and were intercepted just 75 miles from the Syrian border. Syria has long been suspected as a repository of Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction.

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WMD found.. again.

Iraq connection found.. again.

But go ahead. Insist that George W. Bush is a liar. That there are no WMDs. That we had no right to go into Iraq. Live your delusion. The rest of us shake our heads in wonder...

Mayor

[twonky]

Originally Posted by mayor

But go ahead. Insist that George W. Bush is a liar. That there are no WMDs. That we had no right to go into Iraq. Live your delusion. The rest of us shake our heads in wonder...

People may start taking you more seriously if you'd tone down the rhetoric.

I heard about this story as well am was wondering why it's not all over the media.

[cujo0123]

Its probably not all over the media because the media wants us to hear a one sided story.

This is the first I've heard about this.

[mayor]

Originally Posted by twonky

People may start taking you more seriously if you'd tone down the rhetoric.

I heard about this story as well am was wondering why it's not all over the media.

People need to take the story seriously, not me.

A man has his limits. I've almost reached mine. Hand me the duct tape, please...

[twonky]

Originally Posted by mayor

People need to take the story seriously, not me.

A man has his limits. I've almost reached mine. Hand me the duct tape, please...

All I'm saying is, you could have said the same thing without accusing people of 'living in delusion.'

[mayor]

Originally Posted by twonky

All I'm saying is, you could have said the same thing without accusing people of 'living in delusion.'

Thank you Twonky. I am humbled and corrected.

Hey, it could be worse than living in delusion. They could be living in North Dakota. Or Oklahoma. Or Iraq.

The funny thing is those who are true believers will just dig their heals in more. People hate to admit when they are wrong.

The last post on this topic was virtually ignored. I can't wait until the administration releases a report, probably sometime this summer, that brings all the evidence to the forefront. It will be at the time most opportune to silence the Dems and serve them a platter full of crow.

I wonder how many of them will admit they were wrong? I daresay, a minority.

Mayor

[CagedTroll]

Originally Posted by mayor

How come you aren't hearing about THIS?

Actually heard about it on CNN yesterday. It was also covered, yesterday, [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now]. And the article you posted mentioned Nightline.

Originally Posted by mayor

WMD found.. again.

Iraq connection found.. again.

By "again" do you mean to you mean: "for the first time in over FIVE years"...?

About the crow, there've been about a dozen stories about WMD being found in Iraq over the past year. All turned out to be false. After about a week of "see, I told you so" from certain parties. So if anyone would be familiar with the taste of said fowl by now, it should be the hardcore Bush fans... But then, NO ONE in the cheering section ever admitted they were wrong about those stories.

Al-Zarqawi is an al Queda operative, no known affiliation to Saddam's goverment. The one terrorist training camp found in Iraq was in the Kurdish controlled north, right under under one of our "no-fly zones". Indications are still that al Queda wanted to overthrow the government of Iraq, which was weakened by sanctions and corruption to the point that al Queda was able to infiltrate Iraq, in much the same way they've infiltrated the U.S.

And even if those were actual containers of chemical weapons agents (which I think need to be turned over to the U.S. or UN for further testing), they could have, and were more likely to have, been produced elsewhere. "Shelf life" and such...

[luvmetender]

I love you, CT...

[mrbowler]

Originally Posted by cujo0123

Its probably not all over the media because the media wants us to hear a one sided story.

This is the first I've heard about this.

Actually you can listen to Conservative thoughts with Hannity, and also on I believe MSNBC. There's plenty of Media outlets to satisfy both ends of the aisle or somewhere in between.

[mayor]

Ought to be MAJOR headline news. It isn't. It's a sidebar and a one-night discussion. Give me a break...

[CagedTroll]

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Airing suspects' confessions before their trial is unusual in Jordan. In 1998, six men accused of affiliation with a militant group confessed on television to planting a bomb that exploded outside an Amman hotel. Five years later, a court found them innocent.

[telos2000]

Sort of like OJ was found to be innocent?

[CagedTroll]

OT, and bitter.

[telos2000]

Originally Posted by CagedTroll

OT, and bitter.

A dose of castor oil will take care of that for ya!

[FUNdamental]

Originally Posted by mayor

Thank you Twonky. I am humbled and corrected.

Hey, it could be worse than living in delusion. They could be living in North Dakota. Or Oklahoma. Or Iraq.

The funny thing is those who are true believers will just dig their heals in more. People hate to admit when they are wrong.

The last post on this topic was virtually ignored. I can't wait until the administration releases a report, probably sometime this summer, that brings all the evidence to the forefront. It will be at the time most opportune to silence the Dems and serve them a platter full of crow.

I wonder how many of them will admit they were wrong? I daresay, a minority.

Mayor

Did I miss it, where is the report, Mayor? Where are all those weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, the 15 minute strike capability, the Africa purchase confirmation? Where are the photos of Sadam and Osama together?