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Old 03-17-2004, 07:43 PM
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President Bush has attended more than 100 fundraisers since deploying troops but has not attended a funeral for any of the 570 US soldiers who have died in Iraq.
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But he DID make sure to feature one of them in their casket on his political ad campaign.
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I will admit, I think it is not very good. He could at least hold some sort of memorial service for those lost in Iraq. Maybe on the anniversary of the war that would have been a good idea, recognizing their sacrifice.
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But he DID make sure to feature one of them in their casket on his political ad campaign.
Luv, if is wasn't married.....
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If "is = I" then
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President Bush has attended more than 100 fundraisers since deploying troops but has not attended a funeral for any of the 570 US soldiers who have died in Iraq.
So just so we know you're not just being 'anti-Bush' about this and feel this is a legitimate concern.

Since the war is still going on, if he ends up going to at least 1 funeral, will that be enough?

If not, how many funerals would you like him to go to before you're able to get passed this criticism?

What if he holds a mass memorial service for all the families? Will that be enough?

In other words, what could Bush do to make you feel like this is no longer an issue for you?
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So just so we know you're not just being 'anti-Bush' about this and feel this is a legitimate concern.

Since the war is still going on, if he ends up going to at least 1 funeral, will that be enough?

If not, how many funerals would you like him to go to before you're able to get passed this criticism?

What if he holds a mass memorial service for all the families? Will that be enough?

In other words, what could Bush do to make you feel like this is no longer an issue for you?
What I am going to tell you disturbs me, and I hope the conotations are wrong.

In google news I typed in the following search as written- Bush "Calls Family" Soldier.

I received no hits. Can anyone think of a better search?
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What I am going to tell you disturbs me, and I hope the conotations are wrong.

In google news I typed in the following search as written- Bush "Calls Family" Soldier.

I received no hits. Can anyone think of a better search?
Did you not respond to my questions on purpose?
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Did you not respond to my questions on purpose?

No, I am just trying to find out what the President has done for the families of the fallen before I make a recommendation.

I can’t even find a phone call.
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No, I am just trying to find out what the President has done for the families of the fallen before I make a recommendation.

I can’t even find a phone call.
Does something like this count?

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No, I am just trying to find out what the President has done for the families of the fallen before I make a recommendation.

I can’t even find a phone call.
Also, instead of having some clear indication of what you want the president to do, you first have to check on what he has already done (or not done?)

It seems like you're preparing to make sure that you will always expect more than what he has already done (or not done.)

For example, if we do happen to find a report saying that he called a family or two that is then broadcast all over the world to every media outlet, are you going to accept that or are you going to discount it as a 'political move?'

I think you should define what you expect before searching out what he's already done.
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So just so we know you're not just being 'anti-Bush' about this
Uh, what's the matter with being 'anti-Bush'? Isn't that my right to have my own political beliefs in America? Did I fall asleep and wake up in Cuba?
I'm anti-Bush and dang proud of it.
I have very high expectations for honesty and compassion and intelligence and the man doesn't meet my high standards in any of those departments or many others.
I'm proud I have high standards, I think I and the American public deserve the VERY best.
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I will admit, I think it is not very good. He could at least hold some sort of memorial service for those lost in Iraq. Maybe on the anniversary of the war that would have been a good idea, recognizing their sacrifice.
How about a memorial service on Memorial Day?

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President Bush gave hugs and kisses, shook the hands of children and at one point cried Monday as he consoled the families of Fort Carson soldiers killed in Iraq.

Bush spent nearly two hours - a hour more than scheduled - privately comforting nearly 100 family members in three rooms at a helicopter hangar, decorated with couches, televisions, tables and chairs, according to people who were there.

"It came from his heart, and you could tell it meant a lot to him and that means a lot to me," said Melissa Latham, whose husband, Staff Sgt. William Latham, died June 18 from injuries he suffered in Iraq in May.

The president came into each room and told everyone how sorry he was for their loss.

He then met with each family individually.

Latham, who took her three children - Patricia, 10, Travis, 9, and Jeremy, 6 - delivered a message from William's father.

"He wanted me to say he is behind (Bush) and get it done right the first time and not have our kids have to go over and finish what dads are trying to do," said Melissa Latham, who told the president she felt the same way.

Sally and Chuck Taylor's son, Staff Sgt. Michael Quinn, was killed May 27 in a checkpoint shootout.

Sally Taylor said Bush took time with each family, giving them his entire attention.

"The empathy that he showed, the time he took, the rapport he had with brand-new babies. This man is incredible," she said.

Taylor said she watched as Bush spent a long time with one woman whose husband was killed recently and her children.

Taylor likened it to a prayer circle.

"He reached, and he touched all the lives in there," she said.

"It made me feel not so out there in left field like a statistic. . . . I found it very helpful."

Melissa Givens, whose husband, Pfc. Jesse Givens, was killed May 1, told Bush she still supports the war and that her husband believed everyone should have freedom.

"I hope you believe that, too," Bush told her.

"I do," Givens said.

Givens' 6-year-old son, Dakota, didn't believe Bush was real at first and even joked about wanting to pull on the president's ear to see.

"I told him if you pull on his ear, we'll get arrested," Givens said.

Bush assured Dakota he was real and really the president.

Givens said she tried to hold back the tears, but they came anyway.

"I hugged him, and I kept crying so he kept hugging me," she said.

"He told us how sorry he was and he had tears in his eyes."
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