"furor" over Bush's 9/11 ads was entirely manufactured - surprise, surprise

[mayor]

I finally found the link to the article I mentioned on another thread. Another case of liberal hijinks in order to stir up public opinion. Of course, it worked on those who wanted it to be true. Not I.

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Mayor

[mayor]

And here is the link to the group referenced...

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[luvmetender]

Originally Posted by mayor

I finally found the link to the article I mentioned on another thread. Another case of liberal hijinks in order to stir up public opinion. Of course, it worked on those who wanted it to be true. Not I.

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Mayor

So the New York Post is allowed now?

[bwsmom]

Originally Posted by luvmetender

So the New York Post is allowed now?

The original financial information tying Ms. Heinz to Peaceful Tomorrows (through her various foundations) came from the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. Funny how no one from CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN or the like has picked up on it...

[mayor]

Originally Posted by luvmetender

So the New York Post is allowed now?

Allowed what? To publish the news?

[bradedit]

Oh, so we CAN post opinion pieces, or is it just mayor that doesn't have to follow the rules, Taxman??

And the women on the Today show were manufactured, wow we libs are GOOD!!

[bradedit]

[Rockabillie]

I heard on the radio that family members of some who died at 9-11 were VERY offended. I don't think you could really manufacture that?

Besides, I think it's up to all of us to decide what we think of President Bush, of his ads, his policies, etc. I certainly don't vote because some talking head on tV says to do this or don't do that. I know what I think and that's all I care about. And I was horrified that George Bush is trying to get political gain from capitalizing on 9-11. How cold and calculating. My opinion; thought up ALL by my little ole self! I don't even watch TV news. So I don't care who said what, I know what I believe.

[twonky]

Originally Posted by Rockabillie

And I was horrified that George Bush is trying to get political gain from capitalizing on 9-11. How cold and calculating. My opinion; thought up ALL by my little ole self! I don't even watch TV news. So I don't care who said what, I know what I believe.

Have you seen the ads? The 'images' in question pop on the screen for what, maybe 2 seconds?

This is a major event that happened during his presidency. How come you feel he doesn't have the right to at least mention it? Cold and calculating? How in the world do you get that?

Should we inform Kerry that he doesn't have the right to mention anything about Vietnam? That was a pretty bad time for America as well. Is he being cold and calculating when he mentions that for political gain?

I'd like someone to specifically tell me what they find so offensive about the ads.

[monkee]

I know I've said this before, but I think it bears repeating.

Why is it okay (according to some)for Democrats to use 9/11 against Bush for their own political gain, but he shouldn't be able to even refer to it in his ads. Can someone please explain this to me???

[FUNdamental]

Originally Posted by twonky

I'd like someone to specifically tell me what they find so offensive about the ads.

The answer is the flag draped caskets. By using them in his re election adds, the President is turning a horrific event that should be talked about, into its gravest personal form, people in caskets.

The dichotomy is the government, the press, and the victims’ families are not allowed to take photos of caskets arriving from Iraq into Dover, Delaware (by Presidential order), but the President is allowed to use flag draped caskets from 9-11 in a political add.

Odd set of scruples, isn’t it?

[twonky]

Originally Posted by FUNdamental

The answer is the flag draped caskets. By using them in his re election adds, the President is turning a horrific event that should be talked about, into its gravest personal form, people in caskets.

Ok. So according to you, if those caskets weren't there, you wouldn't have a problem with the ads? So it's not that he talked about 9-11, its just that he used a flag draped casket?

The dichotomy is the government, the press, and the victims’ families are not allowed to take photos of caskets arriving from Iraq into Dover, Delaware (by Presidential order), but the President is allowed to use flag draped caskets from 9-11 in a political add.

Odd set of scruples, isn’t it?

I'm not even sure how to respond to this. You're asking us to compare images from the 9-11 tragedy, that EVERYONE has access to use to images from new arrivals of caskets that NOONE case use.

There's no comparison. Now if you were telling me that no one else is allowed to use images from 9-11 then that would be an 'odd set of scruples' but what you've described isn't.

[pandybat]

What kind of message is Bush trying to convey by using the 9/11 tragedy in his ads anyway? Some please explain.

[FUNdamental]

Yes, the ads are not very good, but the flag draped caskets are the real issue.

He should use images of him speaking at the Pentagon, or the Twin Towers, not images that bring the tragedy down to such a personal level.

I believe the dichotomy is flag draped caskets arriving in Dover are not allowed to be photographed by anybody-the government, the press, or the families. It is clear the President doesn’t want those images out there. He claims it’s for protection of the victim’s family. However, he certainly will use photos of 9-11 caskets for his political ambitions without any consideration of those victims’ families.

[pandybat]

Hmmmm...I wouldn't call the "furor" completely "manufactured".

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Bush attends memorial for 9/11 victims

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"I will never vote again. I don't believe any of the politicians," said Kiefer, who held an enlarged photo of her son and talked to reporters after the event.

Rebutting Democrats who criticized Bush for attending a campaign fund-raiser after the groundbreaking, White House press secretary Scott McClellan explained that Bush was invited to the memorial on Feb. 17 by the Nassau County executive and the board of the memorial foundation after they heard about the fund-raiser, which was scheduled in mid-January.

The quarrel over the ads overshadowed the event.

"No one's been held accountable for anything about 9-11," said Bill Doyle, who lost his 25-year-old son, Joseph, at the World Trade Center. Doyle also criticized the image in Bush's campaign commercial of the flag-draped remains of a victim being carried from ground zero.

"I have a problem with exploiting death for political gain," he said. "I'd have the same problem if Democrats used images of body bags coming back from Iraq in one of their ads."

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