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Old 02-27-2004, 01:19 AM
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When his name is mentioned just remember what he did:


•I attacked and took over 2 countries.

•I spent the U.S. surplus and bankrupted the US Treasury.

•I shattered the record for the biggest annual deficit in history (not
easy!).

•I set an economic record for the most personal bankruptcies filed in any 12
month period.

•I set all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the stock
market.

•I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.

•In my first year in office I set the all-time record for most days on
vacation by any president in US history (tough to beat my dad's, but I did).

•After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, I presided over
the worst security failure in US history.

•I set the record for most campaign fund raising trips by any president in
US history.

•In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their jobs.

•I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than any other
president in US history.

•I set the all-time record for most real estate foreclosures in a 12-month
period.

•I appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any
president in US history.

•I set the record for the fewest press conferences of any president, since
the advent of TV.

•I signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any
other US president in history.

•I presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to
intervene when corruption was revealed.

•I cut health care benefits for war veterans.

•I set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take
to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for
protest against any person in the history of mankind.

•I dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.

•I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in US
history.

•Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history.
(The poorest multimillionaire, Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker
named after her.)

•I am the first president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union
simultaneously struggle against bankruptcy.

•I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud in any market in
any country in the history of the world.

•I am the first president in US history to order a US attack AND military
occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so against the will of the
United Nations and the vast majority of the international community.

•I have created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history
of the United States, called the "Bureau of Homeland Security"(only one
letter away from BS).

•I set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases,
more than any other president in US history (Ronnie was tough to beat, but I
did it!!).

•I am the first president in US history to compel the United Nations remove
the US from the Human Rights Commission.

•I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove
the US from the Elections Monitoring Board.

•I removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of
congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.

•I rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant. I withdrew from the World
Court of Law.

•I refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default
no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.

•I am the first president in US history to refuse United Nations election
inspectors access during the 2002 US elections.

•I am the all-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign
donations.

•The biggest lifetime contributor to my campaign, who is also one of my best
friends, presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in
world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).

•I spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US
history.

•I am the first president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and
then lied, saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)

•I am the first US president to establish a secret shadow government.

•I took the world's sympathy for the US after 9/11, and in less than a year
made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest
diplomatic failure in US and world history).

•I am the first US president in history to have a majority of the people of
Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and
stability.

•I changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government
contracts.

•I set the all-time record for the number of administration appointees who
violated US law by not selling their huge investments in corporations
bidding for gov't contracts.

•I have removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any
other president in US history.

•I entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than
two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.

•RECORDS AND REFERENCES: I have at least one conviction for drunk driving in
Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available).

•I was AWOL from the National Guard and deserted the military during time of
war.

•I refuse to take a drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.
(wink,wink)

•All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my
fathers library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

•All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt
companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

•All minutes of meetings of any public corporation for which I served on the
board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

•Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public
energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.

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Old 02-27-2004, 02:26 AM
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IBTL! LOL
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I am wondering what "secret shadow government" Bush set up...LOL...care to enlighten me?
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I am wondering what "secret shadow government" Bush set up...LOL...care to enlighten me?
Here's some information about it:

Shadow Government Is at Work in Secret
After Attacks, Bush Ordered 100 Officials to Bunkers Away From Capital to Ensure Federal Survival
By Barton Gellman and Susan Schmidt
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, March 1, 2002; Page A01


President Bush has dispatched a shadow government of about 100 senior civilian managers to live and work secretly outside Washington, activating for the first time long-standing plans to ensure survival of federal rule after catastrophic attack on the nation's capital.



Execution of the classified "Continuity of Operations Plan" resulted not from the Cold War threat of intercontinental missiles, the scenario rehearsed for decades, but from heightened fears that the al Qaeda terrorist network might somehow obtain a portable nuclear weapon, according to three officials with firsthand knowledge. U.S. intelligence has no specific knowledge of such a weapon, they said, but the risk is thought great enough to justify the shadow government's disruption and expense.

Deployed "on the fly" in the first hours of turmoil on Sept. 11, one participant said, the shadow government has evolved into an indefinite precaution. For that reason, the high-ranking officials representing their departments have begun rotating in and out of the assignment at one of two fortified locations along the East Coast. Rotation is among several changes made in late October or early November, sources said, to the standing directive Bush inherited from a line of presidents reaching back to Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Officials who are activated for what some of them call "bunker duty" live and work underground 24 hours a day, away from their families. As it settles in for the long haul, the shadow government has sent home most of the first wave of deployed personnel, replacing them most commonly at 90-day intervals.

The civilian cadre present in the bunkers usually numbers 70 to 150, and "fluctuates based on intelligence" about terrorist threats, according to a senior official involved in managing the program. It draws from every Cabinet department and some independent agencies. Its first mission, in the event of a disabling blow to Washington, would be to prevent collapse of essential government functions.

Assuming command of regional federal offices, officials said, the underground government would try to contain disruptions of the nation's food and water supplies, transportation links, energy and telecommunications networks, public health and civil order. Later it would begin to reconstitute the government.
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Re: Bush: love him or hate him?

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Here's some information about it:

Shadow Government Is at Work in Secret
After Attacks, Bush Ordered 100 Officials to Bunkers Away From Capital to Ensure Federal Survival
By Barton Gellman and Susan Schmidt
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, March 1, 2002; Page A01


President Bush has dispatched a shadow government of about 100 senior civilian managers to live and work secretly outside Washington, activating for the first time long-standing plans to ensure survival of federal rule after catastrophic attack on the nation's capital.



Execution of the classified "Continuity of Operations Plan" resulted not from the Cold War threat of intercontinental missiles, the scenario rehearsed for decades, but from heightened fears that the al Qaeda terrorist network might somehow obtain a portable nuclear weapon, according to three officials with firsthand knowledge. U.S. intelligence has no specific knowledge of such a weapon, they said, but the risk is thought great enough to justify the shadow government's disruption and expense.

Deployed "on the fly" in the first hours of turmoil on Sept. 11, one participant said, the shadow government has evolved into an indefinite precaution. For that reason, the high-ranking officials representing their departments have begun rotating in and out of the assignment at one of two fortified locations along the East Coast. Rotation is among several changes made in late October or early November, sources said, to the standing directive Bush inherited from a line of presidents reaching back to Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Officials who are activated for what some of them call "bunker duty" live and work underground 24 hours a day, away from their families. As it settles in for the long haul, the shadow government has sent home most of the first wave of deployed personnel, replacing them most commonly at 90-day intervals.

The civilian cadre present in the bunkers usually numbers 70 to 150, and "fluctuates based on intelligence" about terrorist threats, according to a senior official involved in managing the program. It draws from every Cabinet department and some independent agencies. Its first mission, in the event of a disabling blow to Washington, would be to prevent collapse of essential government functions.

Assuming command of regional federal offices, officials said, the underground government would try to contain disruptions of the nation's food and water supplies, transportation links, energy and telecommunications networks, public health and civil order. Later it would begin to reconstitute the government.
LOL (and all of the other little acronyms that go along with that)

UM that is not a "shadow" government, that is protocol. When there is a potential for attack on this country to insure our government can still run, top officials go to one of the several bunker located around the country. It has nothing specifically to do with a nuke or al Qaeda, it is in the even of any catastrophy natural or man made. This way, there is always someone "left" to run the county in case the president gets killed. There is also a chain of command, who is in line to take the role as president also. Nothing shadow about that one, it is common knowledge. My Dad worked at one when he was in the army (one of the fortified East Coast places), guess he is part of the shadow government and I didn't even know it! 90 day intervals? Gee I remember my Daddy being home more than that! :
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Maybe I am misreading but it says the policy has changed, did your dad serve under the younger Bush??

Rotation is among several changes made in late October or early November, sources said, to the standing directive Bush inherited from a line of presidents reaching back to Dwight D. Eisenhower.
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Maybe I am misreading but it says the policy has changed, did your dad serve under the younger Bush??

Rotation is among several changes made in late October or early November, sources said, to the standing directive Bush inherited from a line of presidents reaching back to Dwight D. Eisenhower.
No, but site R has been open and constantly staffed since 1948, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. I called Dad and he said that in times of possible distress of the country, they were put on 48 hour duties and also 7 day duty, worst case was the potential for 30 day +. My husband was on every 4 day duty on his sub, was he part of a "shadow government" too because he had to stay in one place for more than an 8 hour work day? Or better yet when he had to go out to sea away from his family for 6 months? This is no secret, this is protocol that has been in effect well before the cold war or al Qaeda. How can it be a secret if everyone knows about it? For goodness sakes there was a History channel program about US government bunkers. LOL

Edited to add, that my main point is, that a "shadow government" is just that a secret. If common people know about it, it is no longer a "secret" and not in the "shadows." Now I am not saying that their are not possible "shadow" things happening in our government, but this example is flawed because people know about these bunker, and protocol. I also cannot "just" blame Bush for "shadow" organizations because I am sure if files were wide open for us all to see, we would see that EVERY president has had their hands in something "shadowy."
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Wow, the most powerful president in the history of the world! And he did it all by himself, without the help of Congress! I'm quite impressed.
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Hate him! But he HAS brought me back to God, because I get on my knees every night to pray that he doesn't get re-elected!
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Of course! President Bush has done EVERYTHING singlehandedly. We might as well get rid of Congress - Bush is responsible for EVERYTHING!
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Hate him! But he HAS brought me back to God, because I get on my knees every night to pray that he doesn't get re-elected!
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Re: Bush: love him or hate him?

I love the man to pieces, thanks for asking

p.s. Kind of interesting to note that there are several things on the 'why to hate him list' you posted that are the very reasons I love him.

If they weren't written with such a liberal slant, that is.
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Hate him! But he HAS brought me back to God, because I get on my knees every night to pray that he doesn't get re-elected!
That is funny 'cause me and lots of others I know did that very same thing when Clinton was there

Look at us all keeping the separation out of church and state!
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VITAL STATISTICS: Greasing The Machine: Bush, His Cabinet and their Oil Connections
George W. Bush, President

With a mixed bag of business ventures in his background, Bush's best move was to sell a small company he started in the 1970s called Bush Exploration/Arbusto to Spectrum 7, which was later acquired by Harken Energy. In return he received US$600,000 worth of stock, a US$120,000 contract per year and a lot of friends in the Texas oil scene. His presence helped Harken score contracts in the Middle East when the company's management mentioned to the government of Bahrain that President Bush's kid "is on our Board". No doubt Bush's background with Harken will help them in their current struggle against well-organized social movements in Costa Rica, trying to stop this company from offshore oil drilling and exploration. During Bush's campaign for President, oil money gushed into his campaign coffers: US$2.8 million from energy companies and another US$2.3 million from the auto sector. Enron alone donated more than a million dollars to the Republican National Committee. Bush owns stock in General Electric, BP, Duke Energy, ExxonMobil, Newmont Gold Mining Corporation, Pennzoil and Tom Brown, Inc.

Dick Cheney, Vice President

Whether or not Dick Cheney is calling all the shots in the new administration or just most of them he clearly brings oil interests to the White House. After serving as Secretary of Defense under George Bush Sr., Dick left "public service" and settled in Dallas, Texas to head up the world's biggest oil-services company, Halliburton (market value US$18.2 billion). Since 1992, Halliburton has contributed US$1.6 billion to the campaigns of Washington-bound politicians. Cheney's record as a Wyoming Congressman from 1978 to 1989 hints at what's to come. He co-sponsored a measure to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil drilling and voted against the Clean Water Act which required industries to release their toxic emission records. Cheney is a member of a group called COMPASS (Committee to Preserve American Security and Sovereignty).
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