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What do you think about the fingerprinting of visitors to the US?

I don't mind but I don't think any countries should be excluded!

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And why did Ridge have to be there for this one, was it a photo op?
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Re: What do you think about the fingerprinting of visitors to the US?

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I don't mind but I don't think any countries should be excluded!

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And why did Ridge have to be there for this one, was it a photo op?
You don't think that the director of the Homeland Security agency should be present at the launch of a major security upgrade?
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Re: What do you think about the fingerprinting of visitors to the US?

I know some people will say that it's a human right issue or a civil rights issue but it doesn't bother me...

But I must admit that I would be wondering how long these finger print records would be kept...

It's just that I have an inate distrust of governmental departments...

Or am I being paranoid?......
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Re: What do you think about the fingerprinting of visitors to the US?

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Re: What do you think about the fingerprinting of visitors to the US?

NO, I don't think he needed to be there to watch unless of course he wanted to have his picture taken!
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Re: What do you think about the fingerprinting of visitors to the US?

What is the deal with all those countries being excluded from this new process? Either I missed it in the article or it didn't state the reasons. I think they all should have to do if others have to do it. Brazil is right. A foreigner is a foreigner.
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Re: What do you think about the fingerprinting of visitors to the US?

Look, it's a bad move but not because of it being a photo op or a privacy violation. Think about it: How many fingerprints do we have on hand of suicide bombers ect? We're going to catch more "common" criminals, but I'm not sure that it will have much of an effect on anti-terrorism...
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Re: What do you think about the fingerprinting of visitors to the US?

it might act a deterrent.

Just like the footage of the MOAB and seeing Saddam Hussein look like the unabomber.
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Re: What do you think about the fingerprinting of visitors to the US?

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it might act a deterrent.

Just like the footage of the MOAB and seeing Saddam Hussein look like the unabomber.

Maybe, but on a practical level it won't work. I'd love to be proven wrong, but....
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Re: What do you think about the fingerprinting of visitors to the US?

I guess it remains to be seen.
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Re: What do you think about the fingerprinting of visitors to the US?

Did we have any of the 911 terroists fingerprints? Seems like a waste of money to me but what do I know, I just help to foot the bills!

Do you get your fingerprints taken for a green card?
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Re: What do you think about the fingerprinting of visitors to the US?

yep, I did. (get fingerprinted that is.. blood tested, and criminal background checked, too)

And since this program was enacted 2+ years after 9/11/01, how would we have gotten the terrorist's fingerprints?
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Re: What do you think about the fingerprinting of visitors to the US?

Where some of them not living here, getting their pilots license,going to school, etc.

And goodness knows nobody ever sneaks into to US!
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Re: What do you think about the fingerprinting of visitors to the US?

I've read more on this and a few things I don't understand....
What is a picture or a fingerprint of a potential terrorist going to do for us unless we follow up on each persons activities once they are here? Makes no sense....a foreigner comes in to the US, we have no record of them on file as being involved in terrorist activity, but now we have a picture and fingerprints, but their actions once they enter are not monitored. How are they going to tell if someone is a potential threat if we have no prior record on them and their activity once they are here is not monitored? It might deter old terrorists from coming through the line but how is it going to stop a new terrorist with no prior record from coming through? How easy can it be to do a background check on someone from another country anyway? Just because they aren't a criminal here in the US, doesn't mean they aren't a criminal in their own country. Is there really a database available to do background checks on people worldwide? It's hard enough to do background checks on people here state to state. I seriously hope this doesn't turn out to be one of those security measures that sounds good on paper but in reality ends up not working.
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Re: What do you think about the fingerprinting of visitors to the US?

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What is the deal with all those countries being excluded from this new process? Either I missed it in the article or it didn't state the reasons. I think they all should have to do if others have to do it. Brazil is right. A foreigner is a foreigner.
Absolutely right, a foreigner is a foreigner, wasn't Richard Reid a British Citizen?...

So now all the terrorists have to do is get a passport from a country that is part of the waiver scheme and it's open season again on US targets... ...

It should be accepted that a foreigner is a foreigner, either he is or he isn't or we might as well do away with passports altogether, as it is now there will always be some easy loophole for a terrorist to exploit... ...
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