Resurrecting The Draft: affect your vote in 2004?

[Jwelch111]

There's "talk" on the chat boards that, with his possible, (pending accurate count of votes) election, Bush will forge ahead with reinstating The Draft in 2005.

Will ANY honest journalist / reporter ask him THAT question in a debate or his (loosely named) press conferences?

IF Bush said "Yes, we must resurrect The Draft to address the terrorist dangers; IOW, launch attacks on Iran (Israel is casting bad words toward THAT country now), Syria, certainly not North Korea (NOT ME; OIL-less: fear not, N. Koreans!)

A large majority of the current military will NOT continue beyond their current enlistment. (a poll citied this fact).

How would you react to THE DRAFT?

Personally, I have a son, age 24 (I think the initial draftees will be the 19-24 bunch), a daughter, graduate student, age 22, and a son, who turns 14 Dec. 26th. I am MOST worried about him. He will NOT fight in any War for OIL.

But do you think that Bush's non-diplomacy foreign policy has US, inevitably, headed that way in (shudder) a Bush II, part deux?

And, thinking this strong possibility, will this affect your vote in 2004, for President?

[angusmcgee]

what "chat" boards are you talking about, jwelch?

and, how much oil did we get out of Afghanistan?

Please read my sig. line too, my dear. Very appropo.

[Taxman]

Jwelch, this is the single time that I'm going to tell you this: tone it down.

[CagedTroll]

Originally Posted by angusmcgee

and, how much oil did we get out of Afghanistan?

You don't get oil "out" of Afghanistan, you run oil "through" Afghanistan into Central Asian countries (Pakistan, Uzbekistan...). Unocal has been trying to run a pipeline through there since the mid 90s, negotiating with the Taliban. I think the Soviets were trying to do the same. There's plenty of articles covering this, and I think even a James Bond flick (The World Is Not Enough, with Sophie Marceau and Denise Richards).

Senate and House are already sitting on bills to reinstate the draft (S.89 and H.R.163) you can look them up at [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now]. That's what got various boards humming.

[angusmcgee]

You don't get oil "out" of Afghanistan, you run oil "through" Afghanistan into Central Asian countries (Pakistan, Uzbekistan...).

What does the US have to benefit from this? Would it be worth sending troops in?

Just because the House/Senate are working on these bills doesn't mean that:
A) they're going to pass
B) President Bush will sign them
C) We're going to use these new draftees to invade Iran, Syria and North Korea.

Seriously.. Do you honestly believe these "black helicopter conspiracy theories"?

[Jwelch111]

angusmcgee: Yup.

Here's a BIG clue to this secretive Bush Administration: watch closely the news drip on FRIDAYS:

That's when the news that they want to receive the least amount of scrutiny is dumped.

Happens all the time.

Taxman: My strong words are directed towards The Bush Administration, not any posters on this board.

As I understood the DoD rules, I am able to criticize a person not posting on this board (BUSH and Co).

Perhaps you can clarify your moderator rules.

You can PM me, but I am on this board sporadically, and may not receive your message expeditiously).

It IS still the season of gifts and all!

And CagedTroll is exactly right about the Pipeline through Afghanistan: it is the Oil Barons' Dream...

[angusmcgee]

jwelch..

Since Hot Potatoes closed down, the rules are different.

The following is taken from the top thread in this forum..

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[angusmcgee]

angusmcgee: Yup.

Fair enough..

I have a question then.

Did you question the deaths of Vince Foster and Ron Brown?

[Jwelch111]

Vince Foster killed himself.

Ron Brown died in a plane crash. As did Paul Wellstone.

[angusmcgee]

Originally Posted by Jwelch111

Vince Foster killed himself.

Ron Brown died in a plane crash. As did Paul Wellstone.

What about all the theories floated about them?

There were plenty of reasons to believe that their deaths were questionable.

drag marks around VF's body, no gun residue powder on his hand..

Air traffic controllers told to give the pilots of RB's aircraft misleading altitude readings..

RB and Clinton sitting down and meeting where RB said that he was going to go to the press and reveal something Clinton didn't want released.. (I forget which scandal this referred to)

I didn't hear anything questionable about Paul Wellstone's crash. It was truly unfortunate.. The scandal in that one was how the memorial went.. Truly disgraceful.

[Jwelch111]

angusmcgee: I am waiting for a clarification of the rules of this "new" forum from the moderator himself, Taxman.

I do not see that I have violated any rule to warrant a "tone down."

"Knowingly false?" No, the questions of Saddam's capture are out there.

I'd like the truth.

We were dragged into this Iraq Invasion and Occupation on multiple lies.

Time for some truth-telling.

[angusmcgee]

[Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now] the results of a Google search on Ron Brown's death.

Pick your own source..

[angusmcgee]

you guys may be PM-ing, and I don't have a problem with that at all.. That's between you two.

It would seem to me that..

Bush will forge ahead with reinstating The Draft in 2005.

and

IF Bush said "Yes, we must resurrect The Draft to address the terrorist dangers; IOW, launch attacks on Iran (Israel is casting bad words toward THAT country now), Syria, certainly not North Korea (NOT ME; OIL-less: fear not, N. Koreans!)

and now..

We were dragged into this Iraq Invasion and Occupation on multiple lies.

would violate..

You may not post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing,

but I could be mistaken..

[Jwelch111]

angusmcgee: this thread is off-topic.

Please comment, one and all, about the possibility of The Draft.

And how this possibility will affect your Vote in 2004, for the President.

Would a Democratic President stem the strike-first, explain later policy of The Bush Administration?

I think he /she would.

Less military actions, less need for recruits.

Our children can stay home.

[angusmcgee]

Originally Posted by Jwelch111

angusmcgee: this thread is off-topic.

Please comment, one and all, about the possibility of The Draft.

And how this possibility will affect your Vote in 2004, for the President.

Would a Democratic President stem the strike-first, explain later policy of The Bush Administration?

I think he /she would.

Less military actions, less need for recruits.

Our children can stay home.

Please provide a link to a credible source which says that Bush intends to reinstate the draft, and then invade all those countries you listed..

Then we'll talk.