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Old 09-04-2002, 07:27 PM
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Baffled Creationsrewards

Anyone else totally disappointed with Creations? First, last week they took away the surf'n'earn section. Now, this week the seatches are gone too!! You now can only earn about nine points per day on their site. Hardly seems worth my time. At that rate you would be lucky to earn a $10 web certificate once a year. It looks like this site is going down with the rest. Too bad it was one of my favorites.
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Old 09-04-2002, 09:54 PM
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I can only hope it is for today. I noticed that on there other sites (liftagift and 27 bucks) that all the searches are gone also. Not sure what is going on cause I recived 2 emails about them upping th points for searches. So I am hoping they are doing upgrades or something and they will be back soon


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Old 09-04-2002, 11:31 PM
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Unhappy I am disappointed too!

The points are cut by 2/3's from a week ago! I HOPE it does not stay this way!

Question about Lift-A-Gift...do they actually send the points to CR when they say they will? I was surprised when I cashed in to see that they only do it 3(or 4) times a year. And 27bucks? Only one point per day for about a week and NONE TODAY!

Seems all reward programs are folding or hardly worthwhile anymore. Sad!
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Old 09-05-2002, 10:07 AM
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Ok I have a few things here: First to answer your question Vieprivee.... yes liftagift does do it. they take awhile but I got them and that is how i was able to cash out on CR. As far as cashing out they were fast and my GC is being sent as we speak. So I can say that good thing for CR. Now the second thing I just read when I clicked on a Prima site is the following:

9/4: Word has it that advertisers are pulling out of CreationsRewards because their admins have been knowingly violating the advertisers' terms of service. How will this affect you? Best case scenario: fewer daily points there as only legitimate offers will remain. Worst case scenario: negative impact on ALL rewards programs -- fewer advertisers (fewer point opps) at all RPs due to worsening reputation of the industry -- still reeling from the eBay abuse by certain RPs (CR among them) earlier this year

Not sure what this means but it might have been all the search sites because thay have been pulled from all the sites the parent with.


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There's a very good discussion of this in another popular rewards forum, however, I'm uncertain as to whether its okay to post a lin to that forum here or not so I'll refrain (it is mentioned in one of the forums on the Prima Rewards site as well under the Other Rewards Programs forum).
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There's a very good discussion of this in another popular rewards forum, however, I'm uncertain as to whether its okay to post a lin to that forum here or not so I'll refrain (it is mentioned in one of the forums on the Prima Rewards site as well under the Other Rewards Programs forum).
Just wanted to say you can post links to other forums if you'd like. DOD doesn't mind unlike other places.
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Thanks for the reply!

Yes, DOD is absolutely fabulous

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For whatever it's worth, this is what I understand is going on:

RPs get paid a commission on sales or signups (like casino deposits, Netflip trials, credit card apps, etc.) made through their links. They pay a portion of that back to their users (in the form of points or rebates) then of course keep a portion for profit.

Since RPs can't find advertisers to pay per click (for site visits) anymore, and many pay-for-search engines specifically state they do not want visits from RPs, some RPs are subsidizing those free points we're earning by paying LESS for purchases and signups. Take Ebates. They may make 10% on a purchase, pay out 7% rebate, and keep the other 3% as profit. Then take Memolink and Blink (just to pick on them). They earn the same 10% but just pay out in points what amounts to 2%. They might keep the same 3% profit that ebates does. They take the other 5% and distribute it out as those "free daily points."

So you've got a tradeoff when you choose RPs: one that pays really well for purchases and signups but doesn't offer much if anything in the way of free points...or one that gives you free points but gives really weak rewards for purchases and signups.

As I understand it, CreationsRewards was trying to do both: providing lots of free points (a whopping 14cents a day at one point) while still giving excellent rewards for purchases and signups. Now how do you pull THAT one off? Where does the money come from?

CR was getting paid for user searches by going through a middleman -- since some search engines don't want anything to do with a rewards program, CR had an arrangement with another company so searches went through THAT business to the pay-for-search engines...violating the TOS of the search engines. When they found out what CR was doing, they immediately requested to be removed.

CR could get sued. They could go under entirely. I don't think CR's users could get in trouble since they were really being duped by CR's management. And they can't deny intentionally trying to defraud those companies, since at one point one of those middleman companies was OWNED by the same guy who owns CR.

But what's really bad here is that this is yet another black eye on the rewards program industry. RPs got totally slammed by Ebay merchants after some RPs were advocating abuse of the rewards ebay was offering for bids earlier this year. Some RPs, if you recall, were going to great lengths to explain how to clear cookies out so they could get credited for multiple bids, etc. This latest debacle is going to do nothing to improve our reputation -- and fewer advertisers means fewer rewards for us all.


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