Netwinner

[Speakeasy]

I have not had a problem with Netwinner. A few disappointments about changes but I expect they will remedy that in the future. I have been a member there since Dec, 2006 and have received and spent $100 in WalMart gift cards. I know there have been problems since they instituted the MasterCard e-count but there are many comments in their forum from people who are receiving theirs. I'm expecting my card any day now. When all my reloads are fulfilled I will have $250 on that card. I still think it's one of the best sites. I would encourage anyone to give it a try. If you don't like it, there's nothing lost but a small amount of your time.

They have now added raffles for some major prizes. I want the Mac Air!!! (or some cash). You use your earned points to enter these raffles. YAHOO... still free and the chance to win a great prize.

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[dickensorlando]

Hi skyangel, I have sent in for my first debit card. Does it really take 60 days to arrive. [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now].

[bashar711]

Looks like fun! I'll try it soon. Thanks for the site.

[BenThair]

Hi everyone! Just joined the forum and wanted to let you all know there's alot of new & disturbing information surfacing about netwinner at CompareRewards. Thought you might like to know who your entrusting your personal info with.

[santosmom]

Their slow payouts is concering me. I am still an active member, but am a little afraid that they are not going to be around much longer.

[4Bevo]

NetWinner has eliminated the ecount card and all payouts . Outside of instant cash wins on the moneywheel or banko , the site is now a prize drawing site only .

As of 5/12/08 all pending redemptions of ecount cards or other gift cards have been canceled . The points have been returned to the players account ( double points ) and are now good only for entry into raffles .No one will be paid for outstanding redemptions .

[carlita]

I am so disappointed!!!! I requested a $75 ecount mastercard payment on 2/25/08 and it just got canceled. What a waste of my time!!

[pkb143]

On May 12, 2008, Netwinner officially become a SCAM!! They took away our pending prize redemptions (mine were $200 worth) and exchanged them for points! They also took away the only remaining cashout prize ($100 E-count card/reload for 100,000 points) so all these points can be used for now are raffles! Stay away! They don't pay, we don't play.

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[chymp]

Originally Posted by chymp

If you haven't been to netwinner yet, you are missing a great opportunity to actually win something besides worthless points!!!! I have been on the internet for years and have not won a thing to speak of.....and I play in all sorts of game sites. In netwinner, between my family and myself, we have won $25 cash, twice....and several gift cards, and we have only been members for a few weeks!!!!!! You play for free and they have great giftcards for all the points you earn...no trading in on those stupid drawings most sites have. Their motto is "You Play, We Pay" and they hold true to thier word!!! Come on in and try a few rounds you'll be hooked just like the rest of us. Just go to netwinner.com and when you register, please feel free to use "chymp" as your referral code, and start yourself off with the first 1000 points free!!! NETWINNER IS THE BEST SITE OUT THERE.....GOOD LUCK GOOD LUCK

having recently been shafted by the powers that be at netwinner, I am recinding any recommendations I had for netwinner. I understand they are being investigated for fraud and theft among other things. Please check this link and see all that is being done: [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now]

[4Bevo]

The following was posted on the North Carolina BBB website :





BBB Alert: Hundreds of Online Gamers Accuse Charlotte-Based Online Gaming Site of Foul Play

6/10/2008
Media Contact: Janet C. Hart, CFEE (704) 927-8617

173 Players from 40 States and Canada File Complaints with BBB

Charlotte, NC – June 10, 2008 – Charlotte-based Netwinner.com’s marketing slogan is “You Play. We Pay!” Unfortunately, more than 170 gamers who played and won prizes on Netwinner.com have not been paid.

Hundreds of people from across the United States and Canada eagerly took Netwinner up on the
“You play. We pay!” offer and played Banko and Moneywheel on [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now], racking up thousands of points that they expected to redeem for cash, debit cards and/or store gift cards ranging in value from $25 to a few hundred dollars. However, when they tried to redeem the points they had spent months accumulating, the players waited to receive debit cards and gift cards that never arrived.

As the total number of unhappy Netwinner gamers grew, the President of Netwinner, Mr. S. Allen Dean, issued a statement to Netwinner’s online gamers saying that the company was not in a financial position to fulfill the cash, debit card and gift card prizes for which players have redeemed points. He said that Netwinner had two options: close the gaming website down or restructure the prizes. Netwinner opted to restructure the prizes, stating that the Terms of Service that every player agreed to allowed the company to change the rules of the game at any time. Instead of giving guaranteed prizes to every player who reached certain levels of points, Mr. Dean said that prizes would be given away in daily drawings. Mr. Dean added that Netwinner would double the points that each player had to redeem and redeposit them back into the players’ accounts; thereby, increasing the chances that players had to win prizes through the drawings.

Netwinner gamers cried foul! The Better Business Bureau of Southern Piedmont has been inundated with 173 complaints filed against Netwinner by online gamers from 40 states and Canada who allege that Netwinner is not fulfilling the prizes as promised. Netwinner countered by accusing the gamers of fraud. The company claims that some players cheated and unfairly accumulated large amounts of points by playing multiple games at the same time or by using automated “robot” programs to accumulate points.

Maureen Duran, a Netwinner player from Kannapolis, NC who claims that Netwinner owes her $275, discounts Netwinner’s position. She said that she did not cheat to win and that it was not possible to play multiple games at the same time. Maureen said her husband also played games on Netwinner and that he is owed even more.

“Netwinner has been responsive to some of the complaints received by the Better Business Bureau, but the central issue is that Netwinner changed the rules after the games had been played and the gamers feel they are entitled to receive the prizes they won under the previous rules,” said Tom Bartholomy, President & CEO of The Better Business Bureau of Southern Piedmont. “Before offering the games and prize structure, Netwinner should have determined how high their potential payout liability for the games might be,” Bartholomy added. “At the point that the financial payout became greater than the company could bear - or when Netwinner determined that players were accumulating more points than anticipated through whatever means they were using to win - the games should have been halted.”

The Better Business Bureau has the following information on file about Netwinner, LLC. Corporate offices - 1427 South Blvd, Suite 200, Charlotte, NC 28203. Mailing address - 105 East Morehead Street. Charlotte, NC 28202. Principals – President & COO, S. Allen Dean (704) 995-2345, Mark Cottman (980)253-3301; and Jennifer Hinson, (704) 400-1936. Website – [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now].

The issue of prize fulfillment may be the reason that traffic to [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now] has been decreasing dramatically over the past few months. According to [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now], the number of visitors to [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now] peaked in January, 2008 at slightly more than 200,000 visitors and declined to 99,358 in May, 2008. The total number of visits to [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now] peaked in January, 2008 at slightly more than 2.25 million visits and declined to 922,571 visits in May, 2008.

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