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Old 08-13-2002, 05:50 PM
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Old 08-14-2002, 11:13 AM
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Old 08-14-2002, 07:04 PM
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I clicked on your link for Michaels Coloring Pages, hoping for some pages to print for my son, and I have had constant pop ups for several minutes. Its annoying, can you stop these from happening? Is this one of those things you get compensated for? I havent been involved with anything like that, just thought you might like some feedback, it really is annoying for the pop ups to keep happening over and over again. I have had to stop typing several times because of the pop ups, and I waited for several pop ups before even responding to your thread. Again, just thought you might appreciate the feedback, maybe you can do something about the pop ups?
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Old 08-15-2002, 10:37 AM
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well.. i have no idea how to even put popups on a webpage. and i assure everyone that my site is free of popups. it is a personal website for my family and friends. it displays the GI Joe coloringbook that I had as a child, as well as other webpages that I have made throughout my life.

there is an ad for Amazon on this page. there is no popup ad. if you click on the Amazon link and make a purchase, i do get compensated from Amazon. in the 5 years that i have had this webpage i have made under $100 and ALL of it, so far, was from commissions from family members and a few employees where i work.

once again there are no popups, nor have there ever been, nor do i ever plan any.

anyone doubting this can just look. i have not changed anything.

and before you make more public accusations about someone's website, i suggest you get more experience on the internet.

and for other people, please forgive my rudeness, but personal accusations like that really get my goat.


note: the ad at the bottom of this entry, that seems to have appeared is not my doing but that of "deal of day"


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What do they say? No good deed goes unpunished...

BTW I went to your site a few days ago and there was no pop-ups.
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Old 08-15-2002, 12:26 PM
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Old 08-15-2002, 01:25 PM
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well.. i have no idea how to even put popups on a webpage. and i assure everyone that my site is free of popups. it is a personal website for my family and friends. it displays the GI Joe coloringbook that I had as a child, as well as other webpages that I have made throughout my life.

there is an ad for Amazon on this page. there is no popup ad. if you click on the Amazon link and make a purchase, i do get compensated from Amazon. in the 5 years that i have had this webpage i have made under $100 and ALL of it, so far, was from commissions from family members and a few employees where i work.

once again there are no popups, nor have there ever been, nor do i ever plan any.

anyone doubting this can just look. i have not changed anything.

and before you make more public accusations about someone's website, i suggest you get more experience on the internet.

and for other people, please forgive my rudeness, but personal accusations like that really get my goat.


note: the ad at the bottom of this entry, that seems to have appeared is not my doing but that of "deal of day"
Yikes, I personally thought this was quite a harsh reaction. I came into this thread for the Amazon codes and read on to see if anyone might have found any of them to be stackable and stumbled into all this. I really didn't think barbaralarry's tone to be accusatory, but helpful. I know my way around the internet and I too find pop ups annoying. Who knows under what conditions barbaralarry got the pop ups.....from another window open or whatever, but they were just making an observation from their experience and pointing this out so if it did have something to do with your site, and you could limit, prevent, whatever, then you'd have more visitors.

I was curious and clicked on your link and didn't get any pop ups either. I'm not responding to cause waves and I know while reading, it can be hard to decipher tone, but I really don't think barbaralarry meant any harm at all. Just my two cents and hopes of keeping DOD a nice, friendly, helpful site that Mayor meant it to be.

P.S. Thanks for the codes.....they'll come in handy with a credit I have at Amazon. Now we just need a great sale so I can get some Christmas shopping done early!


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Old 08-15-2002, 02:28 PM
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Ttulipss, thanks for your support- you are correct, I meant no ill-will towards Joemuseum, and have enjoyed many of his posts. I was only trying to let him know what was happening after I clicked on his site. It was pop-up after pop-up, and didnt end until after I signed off, shut down the pc and then today restarted the pc. I even had tried deleting my cookies, the pop ups still came.

Joemuseum, I apologize for having made you feel I was accusing you. It was my intent to make you aware of what was happening, because the experience with the pop-ups was (at best) annoying. I probably had 20 pop-ups, maybe more. Ttulipss is right- it was my intention to let you know this so if it was something you could control- that you would want to do so, as many people tend to steer away from sites that have these pop-ups.

I suspected you had set the web site to have the pop -ups and wanted to let you know of the annoyance so you could have more viewers to the site- it was a very cute site, one that I would enjoy if there werent pop ups. So if my mentioning that the pop ups happened after clicking on your site made you feel accused, I do apologize. Although I did suspect it was something you set up, it was not my intention to anger you or make you feel accused of something you didnt do. I only wanted you to know of the experience so you could have an opportunity to fix it.

I hope this clears up the confusion for you. :-)


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i appologize if i reacted too harshly. my sincerest appologies.

there are nor have ever been popups on my site. for me to leave a link here with popups that would pay me money would be against the basic philosophy here and would make me look rather scummy, and that seemed to be what you were claiming.

you probably need to use a program to rid your computer of spyware, adware or scumware, which it sounds like you have gotten somewhere. i assure you that you did not download it from my site.

sometimes trojan-like programs that create popups are imbedded in programs that we think are freeware, such as Gator or Kazaa. sometimes a webpage will hijack your homepage and popups eminate from there. sometimes websites put popups on your taskbar that are like little timebombs that popup later so that you do not know when they are happening or why unless you are very observant during your browsing.

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oddly.. after posting this... and mentioning "gator" an ad appeared at the bottom of this entry for gator which will probably still be there after i edit this entry. Gator is the top offender in the spyware category and it is sad that DealofDay is taking money from them for helping spread their virus. Let me urge people not to use Gator which puts a worm on their computer, but to use an alternative like RoboForm available at [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now] (no affiliation to me.. lol)


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Adware, spyware can quietly take over PCs
By John Biggs
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In February, Jennifer Pazdan thought her computer was possessed.

Pazdan, 21, who graduated last month from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, recalls downloading the popular music-file-sharing programs Morpheus and Kazaa as well as an addictive video game called Snood. Almost immediately her computer started acting strangely. Small windows with ads started popping up on her desktop. Her normally speedy computer took more than 10 minutes to perform simple tasks, and software that she didn't know she had began causing her Internet browser to crash, forcing her to shut down her computer repeatedly.

She found out later that the programs she had intentionally installed carried a payload of smaller software programs, with names like Bonzi Buddy and Gator, aimed at serving advertisements and tracking her Internet use.

Although the license agreements -- the long chunks of legalese that users must accept -- for the programs she downloaded mentioned the smaller software programs, Pazdan was taken by surprise and had no idea how to return her computer to normal.

``This has all been a really frustrating and time-consuming experience,'' she said, adding that she was not sure which program carried the mysterious software.

Known as adware or spyware, programs like the ones that slowed Pazdan's computer are popping up on the Internet ever more frequently. Mike Healan, 26, curator of an anti-adware site, [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now] said that the programs are designed to lure users to e-commerce sites and in rare cases pornographic sites, and are churning up debate as more companies use them.

Proponents say that unlike viruses and worms, adware is mostly innocuous and provides a service to users. But Eric Howes, an English instructor and anti-adware campaigner at the University of Illinois who ultimately helped Pazdan remove the software from her computer, said that most people do not even know that they have the software installed.

Most of the programs he has seen offer a service, like storing online passwords or offering to speed network connections, in addition to displaying ads or tracking Web use.

Howes, 33, has seen his share of adware problems.

``My experience with students' computers tells me that the vast majority of them have at least a few spyware applications on their computers, and they're usually shocked when I point them out,'' he said. ``College students, of course, aren't particularly choosy about the software they install.''

Copyright violations

File-sharing programs that have carried adware have already been faulted on another front, with people in the music industry charging that such services, like the Napster of old, promote widespread copyright violations.

One prominent adware case involves RadLight, a small group of developers based in Slovakia who produce a downloadable multimedia player and bundle two programs, New.Net and SaveNow, with their product.

Igor Janos, a RadLight developer, said he decided to bundle the software after he realized that customers were not voluntarily paying for his multimedia software. ``In November 2001, we went to a `free shareware' model; since then only 45 users have registered for a total of $450,'' he said, referring to RadLight. ``This amount of money is definitely not enough to run a serious business.''

So his revenue is supplemented by the producers of New.Net, a program that sells new domain names with endings like .mp3 and .xxx, and SaveNow, which shows pop-up ads. The companies pay Janos for including the software with his RadLight program.

Janos said he believed that users were aware that they were installing SaveNow and New.Net, but that it was in any case not his company's fault if users do not read the license agreement.

``RadLight is definitely not the one to blame,'' he said.

Janos and his team also recently added a function to their program that searches for and deletes a popular anti-spyware program, LavaSoft's Ad-aware, much as a virus or Internet worm deletes anti-virus software.

``If LavaSoft is right and my programs are indeed dangerous, then I'd like to see proof,'' he said. ``Until then, I consider Ad-aware an illegal uninstaller.''

Net `parasites'

The problem with most adware, Healan said, is that its makers know that users of popular software like Rad-Light usually click past the warnings and license agreements during software installation. It is that strategy that most outrages him.

``They are parasites on the body of the Internet,'' he said of the purveyors.

Yet some adware programs do not announce their presence at all: They simply hide on the hard drive or redirect Internet browsers, serving up advertisements and generally wreaking havoc.

These are the programs that give adware a particularly bad name, said Avi Naider, chief executive of WhenU, the company behind SaveNow.

Naider defends his product as a tool that serves up advertisements a few times a day based on the sites that users visit and the search strings they enter into their Internet browsers.

``It's a source of great frustration for us when knowledgeable observers do not read our license agreement and do not look at what we do and then lump us with other players who don't adhere to our standards of privacy,'' he said.

Naider, 30, said that only a minuscule portion of SaveNow users complained about the software and that his company collected no information about its users.

``When you lump all adware together and call it spyware, you are doing a disservice to the makers of free software who are looking for a legitimate revenue model that protects consumers at the same time,'' he said.

Serves purpose

Scott Eagle, chief marketing officer of Gator, makers of one of the programs that Pazdan found on her computer, said that while adware may be unpopular, it does serve a purpose. The Gator eWallet software helps people remember their user names and passwords for Web sites in exchange for receiving pop-up ads.

``The Gator Corp. is a strong supporter of free ad-supported software,'' he said. ``This gives software publishers a revenue stream and allows them to concentrate on building cool, free applications that consumers love.''

But Eagle said that not all adware is created equal.

``Now, juxtapose the good adware with `spyware' or uninvited adware -- software that consumers didn't ask for, usually software that has no value or utility to consumers beyond showing ads and that consumers don't know they have and often aren't easy to uninstall,'' he said. ``Those are the ones that are scary.''

As for Pazdan, she said she planned to be more careful downloading programs from the Internet. But sometimes even that strategy falls short.

``I had one more encounter with spyware,'' she said. ``I installed a program and before I even got to use it, my screen filled up with errors, a new one literally every second.''

The program, which was advertised as being free of adware, was bundled with three hidden adware applications.

``I think I've learned my lesson,'' she said.




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That is so funny you mention Gator and then it is an add on the bottom of your post. What a hysterical coincidence! LOL!!


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not a coincidence... lets just call it DodAdware.

it appeared at the bottom of yours too. hmmmm a program.. possibly "popping up" the ad at the bottom???

lets try it:

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LOL! this is too funny. i will have to make sure not to use the g**** word, I hate programs like g****. Thanks for the spyware site.

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you can go in and edit your post and take the code out for the ad. I do not mind most but hate the G**** word.
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JoeMuseum,

Thanks for understanding. And I truly have enjoyed many of your posts.

I read alot of what you wrote, but not all, I will read more tomorrow and check into the spyware. I do not have it, and probably should. Thanks for helping me with that!

I wonder what happens if we write eddie b... bet nothing shows up! I was wondering why some of my posts now have coupon links....
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