USDA, AMA, etc:junk carb pushers

[blueaguave]

I'm so mad about they lied to me all these years and told me the wrong things to eat. Thank God for Atkins,Sears, Eades,etc telling the truth. The fat in eggs,steak, etc is good for you. FAT DOESN'T MAKE YOU FAT, eating an 80% carb diet does. This whole low fat nonsense has gotten way out of hand. People are eating less fat than ever, but they're fatter and sicker. Steak, chicken, salmon, olive oil, nuts, berries,brocolli,is good for you and is what man survived on for millenia. You want the truth: [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now] [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now] [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now] You want good recipes, buy Suzanne Sommers book.
The next time I go to Manhattan I'm going to the Atkins Center and asking to speak to Dr Atkins so I can personally thank him for saving my life.

[tasker109]

blue.....i was so impressed with dr atkins approach to his research. hes a cardiologist and he was so frustrated with not being able to help his patients so he said, what happened this century, particularly the last 20 years. to the american diet? the most advanced country in the world should be the healthiest. it came down to processed foods in the form of sugar and white flour. we have children coming down with type II adult onset diabetes! why? all the fast food and cereal and pizza and sandwiches and cookies and chips.....its really really scary! when we go off the diet once in a while and eat "regularly", we actually get digestion distress....really bad! and you know what? this is gross but true. i have been plagued with constipation most of my life. continual use of something or other to get things worked out if you know what i mean...snicker, snicker. HOWEVER, in the 6 months, i have not had to use anything at all. thats just one of the side benefits. one of the others is my skin condition. it seems the atkins diet is a toxic purge or something because my skin is so clear and the texture has smoothed out. it could be the food or it could be all the extra water i drink now. maybe a combination. i get so mad when i see agencies and "experts" put atkins down. he just sits there and defends his program! no anger, no ranting. but i have seen some reports that are leaning in his direction. very good to see, isnt it??

[blueaguave]

The US Congress and AMA never apologized for wrongly indicting him of fraud (even though hes being proved right). He was also a pioneer in preventitive medicine, my dad said when he first came to America (1963) Atkins and Pauling were the only "quacks" telling people to take vitamins and herbs!!!

[heyitsmesheila]

I followed the Atkins diet for a month and live on the third floor. By the end of the second week I couldn't make it up to the second floor. I had NO energy and almost passed out so many times.... All it takes is excercise. I walk/run and eat lots of chocolate I feel so much better... and i lost 9 pounds already.... just don't pig out and get excercise..it's that simple.

[tasker109]

its nice if you can exercise but im kind of in a bind there....about the only kind i could do right now is swimming and i dont care for swimming. my knee is so bad that i cant even ride my bike. i do get to do my ab/back exercises but everything else is out of the question. i dont find myself out of energy but then as i said, i dont do a lot.

[blueaguave]

I agree, you should do what works for you. but for the vast majority of people, a high fat/high protein/low carb/low sugar diet is best. That is what your body was desinged to eat, that is what we lived on for millenia.

[heyitsmesheila]

actually......... we were not designed to be meat eaters...if we were we would have differently designed teeth... to tear and shred flesh. We are vegitation eaters with teeth designed to grind. Try this test....

When you see a squirrel cross the road do you think to yourself "yum!" and start to salivate?

When you see a cow in a field do you feel the urge to run up and "git yerself a drink?"

Cow's milk is designed to turn a small 100 or so lb animal into a very large animal-- in a short amount of time. Human milk is for baby humans....and only for a short amount of time.

Humans also have to cook meat before it's eaten safely. Carnivores don't have to. and so on and so on.....

[scooter22]

Anybody can have thier own opinion about what to eat... If you dont do cardio workouts or lift weights or swim you will gain weight... You can burn fat, but the more you consume the harder you have to work... As far as having a high fat or carb diet, just do what works for you... But were talking the outer appearance... My only concern is what goes inside... The cholesterol and saturated fat...

[scooter22]

Originally posted by heyitsmesheila


When you see a squirrel cross the road do you think to yourself "yum!" and start to salivate?

Sometimes.... Depends on the specials at the store.... But I really love little birds that fly REALLY fast.... They taste so sweet, kinda like Chicken with the barbeque sauce already added!!! But They are HARD to catch!!!

[heyitsmesheila]

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[cashhound]

Originally posted by heyitsmesheila
actually......... we were not designed to be meat eaters...if we were we would have differently designed teeth... to tear and shred flesh. We are vegitation eaters with teeth designed to grind. Try this test....

When you see a squirrel cross the road do you think to yourself "yum!" and start to salivate?

When you see a cow in a field do you feel the urge to run up and "git yerself a drink?"

Cow's milk is designed to turn a small 100 or so lb animal into a very large animal-- in a short amount of time. Human milk is for baby humans....and only for a short amount of time.

Humans also have to cook meat before it's eaten safely. Carnivores don't have to. and so on and so on.....

Humans are omniverous, both carnivore and herbivore. Our front teeth are designed for shredding and ripping meat, while the back teeth are for grinding. And because we have a higher level of thought process, we don't behave as animals (well, most of us anyway...lol.)

Atkins deosn't condone a complete lack of carbs except during the induction phase. And that is just to break the cycle we have let ourselves get into. What he does prohibit is anything futher processed and containing man-made crap. Grains processed by today's methods are so empty of nutrients that the manufacturers must ADD nutrients...along with various other chemicals. White bread is poison...not so much because of the carbs, but because of the chemical crap in it.

If we had the time and resources to provide for ourselves the way Americans did just 100 years ago, we would grind our own grain and make our own bread. In my interpretation of Atkins, he would approve of that, as long as we didn't make it our primary means of nutrition. Since most of us can't or won't, we need to eliminate it from our diets...for the purpose of eliminating the crap.

I am nearly 40 years old. I have always had a weight problem. I have tried nearly every diet designed by man, including the Food Pyramid from the FDA. My personal experience has not been good. On the Food Pyramid, I became so tired, cranky, and just icky that I had to FORCE myself to exercise. My thoughts were cloudy...afternoons you could just write off. I wasn't going to have a decent line of reasoning at all.

After 3 months, I went to the doctor. My cholesterol was sky high, I had GAINED 15 pounds (and not muscle) and my triclicerides (sp) were through the roof.

I've been on Atkins for 2 weeks. My energy is through the roof now. I don't have to force myself to exercise...I'm constantly running and going. I can think straight again. I am going to stick with it because I can see such a huge difference in myself. I haven't stepped on a scale, so I don't know about my weight, but at this point, I don't worry about it. I feel great, and that's all that really matters. The weight will level off simply because I AM more active and energetic. Here in a couple of months I will go back and get my bloodwork done again. I expect I will see a tremendous change for the better.

Another thing to consider is age. Younger people will react differently during induction simply because they haven't abused their bodies for years and years...lol. We older people have to go to some rather extreme measures to get our insulin back on track.

It is not a cookie cutter diet. Not everyone reacts the same way. Some people can tolerate more carbs than others. But what Atkins says over and over is for us to LISTEN to our bodies. If we feel like crap, reduce carbs or increase carbs depending on the type of crappiness we are feeling...lol. If we aren't getting enough calories, we won't have energy. But he says to get the calories from protein sources rather than carb sources. I use a soy shake that is almost all protein and zero carbs. And I'm never hungry...really.

[heyitsmesheila]

ok that's a thought...and where do you think the calcium in milk comes from? how does all that "nutrition" get into the "beef?" Cattle eat grain and vegitation..... hmmmmmmm so if we take out the middle man uh cow and just eat the vegitation ........

Quoted from an editorial by William Clifford Roberts, M.d., Editor-in-Chief of the American Journal of Cardiology:

"When we kill animals to eat them, they end up killing us because their flesh, which contains cholesterol and saturated fat, was never intended for human beings, who are natural herbivores."

I don't know about you but... I have a hard enough time tearing a piece of tape off a roll let alone tearing into the flesh of a cow or any other prey that runs by me!



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[bassmount]

There is really little debate on whether Humans are ONLY Herbavores, since they are not they are Omivorse. Please read this small introduction, conclusion and I have included the web site also in case you would like to read the entire paper on this.

Introduction
There are a number of popular myths about vegetarianism that have no scientific basis in fact. One of these myths is that man is naturally a vegetarian because our bodies resemble plant eaters, not carnivores. In fact we are omnivores, capable of either eating meat or plant foods. The following addresses the unscientific theory of man being only a plant eater.


Conclusion
Humans are classic examples of omnivores in all relevant anatomical traits. There is no basis in anatomy or physiology for the assumption that humans are pre-adapted to the vegetarian diet. For that reason, the best arguments in support of a meat-free diet remain ecological, ethical, and health concerns.
[Dr. McArdle is a vegetarian and currently Scientific Advisor to The American Anti-Vivisection Society. He is an anatomist and a primatologist.]

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In other words, we eat the way we do, by peronal choice and nothing more. If you so chose not to eat meat or drink milk, then don't. I however know for a fact that my husband has been on the Low Carb diet for some time now, is in better physical and mental shape than he has ever been in his life, his Hypoglysimia (sp?) is no longer an issue (which it was when he attempted to go Vegitarian due to the high natural sugars in veggies and fruit) and his doctor has said his cholesterol is the lowest he has seen in years. He is in fact healthier than he has been in his entire life (not just adult life, but his entire life). I wish you luck in your choice Shelia! I really do. Hope this clears up what humans really are!

[heyitsmesheila]

my quote was taken from that site also..... what does the ama say?

[LocaChica]

i just finished eating toast! made with white bread yummm


I can't help it! My parents raised me on this poison, it's their fault! LOL j/k but really, I'm a carb addict. *sigh*