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I can't talk at all, I'm sure my DH doesn't mind, since I can be a bit chatty (LOL), but it's driving me bonkers! I went to the doctor yesterday, my regular doctor was busy, this guy tells me I have a sinus infection. Now would you think a sinus infection causes your legs to be weak, with fever, body chills, swollen glands etc.? I don't think so...so as soon as I'm better, I'm switching doctors. Besides the guy I went to has his name on the sign outside the office and it says next to it D.O. What exactly is a D.O.? It doesn't even say MD. He put me on antibiotics, which I doubt will help much since I'm sure it's a virus of some kind. Any suggestion of how to get rid of this darn laryngitis would be appreciated. All I've been doing is coughing, and I know that's not helping. He even prescribed pills for the cough, but they are not working at all, sigh. I am a mess.

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Re: Home sick again, any suggestions for severe laryngitis?

D.O. is Doctor of Osteopathy. Primarily a spine therapist. Good for initial diagnosis of back, disc problems, etc. But generally, not for overall medical problems. And NOT a medical doctor. Nice people, generally, good for back massages, etc., but they did NOT go to medical school. Have medical training, but it is NOT medical school.

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Re: Home sick again, any suggestions for severe laryngitis?

3t, I had a sinus infection a couple of years ago that knocked me on my butt like that. I thought I was going to die for sure! So yeah, I think it could give you all of those symptoms. Anytime you have an infection, your whole body is going to be fighting it off. I sure hope you are feeling better soon...we were just all sick and it's no fun at all!

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D.O. is Doctor of Osteopathy. Primarily a spine therapist. Good for initial diagnosis of back, disc problems, etc. But generally, not for overall medical problems. And NOT a medical doctor. Nice people, generally, good for back massages, etc., but they did NOT go to medical school. Have medical training, but it is NOT medical school.
Woah there, hate to argue with you rockabillie, but I am pretty sure my B.S.N. mom who is the Risk Manager for a metropolitan hospital would not have let me go to a wonderful primary care D.O. for years unless she (the doctor) had been to medical school. LOL!! A D.O. is basically a primary care physician. They go to medical school the same as an M.D.

I also went to a great D.O. when I moved here. She did my ob-gyn exams...everything. That's what I like about them. But now that we have military insurance, I have to go to the Navy Hospital and they have internists who hand you a referral for every single little thing so you are supposed to spend weeks at the hospital to get care. But I can't argue with free! They even gave me two big bottles of baby Motrin today for baby Susan, so I can't complain!!

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Osteopathic Medicine (D.O.)?
If you’re like most people, you’ve been going to a doctor ever since you were born, and perhaps were not aware whether you were seeing a D.O. (osteopathic physician) or an M.D. (allopathic physician). You may not even be aware that there are two types of complete physicians in the United States.
The fact is, that both D.O.s and M.D.s are fully qualified physicians licensed to perform surgery and prescribe medication in all 50 states. Is there any difference between these two kinds of doctors? Yes. And no.
Additional information may be found in these other American Osteopathic Association Web pages:

Osteopathic Medicine
Osteopathic Medical Education

OMT: Hands-On Care

D.O.s and M.D.s are alike in many ways:
Applicants to both D.O. and M.D. colleges typically have a four-year undergraduate degree with an emphasis on scientific courses.
Both D.O.s and M.D.s complete four years of basic medical education.
After medical school, both D.O.s and M.D.s can choose to practice in a specialty area of medicine -- such as psychiatry, surgery or obstetrics -- after completing a residency program which requires an additional two to six years of training.
Both D.O.s and M.D.s must pass comparable state licensing examinations.
D.O.s and M.D.s both practice in fully accredited and licensed health care facilities.
D.O.s comprise a separate, yet equal branch of American medical care. Together, D.O.s and M.D.s enhance the state of care available in America.
D.O.s bring something extra to medicine:
Osteopathic medical schools emphasize training students to be primary care physicians.
D.O.s practice a "whole person" approach to medicine. Instead of just treating specific symptoms or illnesses, they assess the overall health of their patients including home and work environments.
Osteopathic physicians focus on preventive health care.
D.O.s receive extra training in the musculoskeletal system -- your body’s interconnected system of nerves, muscles and bones that make up two-thirds of its body mass. This training provides osteopathic physicians with a better understanding of the ways that an injury or illness in one part of your body can affect another.
Osteopathic manipulative treatment (OMT) is incorporated in the training and practice of osteopathic physicians. With OMT, osteopathic physicians use their hands to diagnose injury and illness and to encourage your body’s natural tendency toward good health. By combining all other medical procedures with OMT, D.O.s offer their patients the most comprehensive care available in medicine today.
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Re: Home sick again, any suggestions for severe laryngitis?

Thanx for the info on D.O. That puts my mind at ease.

My wonderful hubby has just gone to the store to buy me some grapefruit juice and honey. He's such a sweetie. I'll be on the road to recovery soon, I hope.
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Re: Home sick again, any suggestions for severe laryngitis?

OH, sure D.O.s provide health care, just like nurses, physicians' assistants, physical therapists, etc. But that doesn't make them Medical Doctors any more than my Dental Hygenist. There are lots of types of health care workers. Being a health care worker doesn't automatically make you a Medical Doctor.

D.O.s DON'T GRADUATE FROM REAL MEDICAL SCHOOL, as your info above says: "Applicants to both D.O. and M.D. colleges typically have a four-year undergraduate degree..." THEY DO NOT ATTEND 'REGULAR' ACCREDITED M.D. MEDICAL COLLEGES, BUT ALTERNATIVE D.O. SCHOOLS.

There are a lot of 'alternative' options for medical treatment that don't involve Doctors with Medical Degrees from accredited Medical Schools, some honest and hardworking, some scammers trying to take your money.

Going to someone besides a Medical Doctor is fine for some people, there are aromatherapists, acupuncturists, all kinds of health workers that don't have Medical Degrees. Some people love that "New Age" alternative health care. Hey, if it works for you, great, as long as you aren't denying yourself critical care a Doctor could give you. That's OK for some people, but I prefer that my DOCTOR to go to a real medical school with a real medical degree from an accredited medical school.

As I said before, going to a D.O. has it's place (massage therapy for aches, stretching exercises to prevent back strain), but please don't let it replace the vast knowledge of an actual DOCTOR with an advanced medical degree from an accredited medical school.

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Re: Home sick again, any suggestions for severe laryngitis?

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OH, sure D.O.s provide health care, just like nurses, physicians' assistants, physical therapists, etc. But that doesn't make them Medical Doctors any more than my Dental Hygenist. There are lots of types of health care workers. Being a health care worker doesn't automatically make you a Medical Doctor.

D.O.s DON'T GRADUATE FROM REAL MEDICAL SCHOOL, as your info above says: "Applicants to both D.O. and M.D. colleges typically have a four-year undergraduate degree..." THEY DO NOT ATTEND 'REGULAR' ACCREDITED M.D. MEDICAL COLLEGES, BUT ALTERNATIVE D.O. SCHOOLS.

There are a lot of 'alternative' options for medical treatment that don't involve Doctors with Medical Degrees from accredited Medical Schools, some honest and hardworking, some scammers trying to take your money.

Going to someone besides a Medical Doctor is fine for some people, there are aromatherapists, acupuncturists, all kinds of health workers that don't have Medical Degrees. Some people love that "New Age" alternative health care. Hey, if it works for you, great, as long as you aren't denying yourself critical care a Doctor could give you. That's OK for some people, but I prefer that my DOCTOR to go to a real medical school with a real medical degree from an accredited medical school.

As I said before, going to a D.O. has it's place (massage therapy for aches, stretching exercises to prevent back strain), but please don't let it replace the vast knowledge of an actual DOCTOR with an advanced medical degree from an accredited medical school.
From this link it seems they do complete the additional 4 years of medical school and internship, on top of a 4 year undergrad degree.

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The Similarities
Both have a four-year undergraduate degree with an emphasis in the sciences.

Both complete four years of medical education.

Both are fully trained and licensed to prescribe medication and perform surgery.

Both can choose to practice in a specialty area of medicine, such as psychiatry, surgery, or obstetrics after completing a residency program (typically two to six years of additional training).

Both must pass comparable national and state licensing examinations.

Both practice in fully accredited and licensed healthcare institutions.

Together, D.O.s and M.D.s enhance the state of medical care available in America by comprising a separate, yet equal branch of American health care.



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Hey, you can be a Doctor of Philosophy, doesn't mean you're a Medical Doctor. Just 'cause there's 'doctor' in the title does not mean they're Medical Doctor.

That article lists a lot of similarities. Some not so impressive (most have an undergradute degree in science? I would hope ALL do!). All those similarities they list fail to acknowlede they don't go to an ACCREDITED MEDICAL SCHOOL. That's all I'm saying. They go to college, well I would hope so. I went to college, so I know it isn't THAT hard. An undergraduate degree in science is not that big a deal, one college alone probably gives out thousands a year.

Yes, they go to school. But's it's not a Medical degree. Yes, they go to a special Osteopathic school, but it's not an accredited medical school. I think people should make their own choice and be fully informed. Just be aware that they go to a separate school just for Osteopaths with few accreditation standards. It is in no way an accredited medical school. It's like those docs who can't get into US medical school and go to one of those fly-by-night medical schools in the caribbean. Do you really want that to be your doctor? Then decide in whose hands you want to put your life.
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Both practice in fully accredited and licensed healthcare institutions.
See, this is an example of the misleading PR the D.O. web page is putting out.

States license ALL healthcare institutions, from vets to clinics to dialysis centers to acupuncturists to Medical Doctors. Our state healthcare department also includes sanitary checks for barbers and nail technicians in the same licensing process! So passing the state licensing DOES not state you're a doctor, it just says you keep a sanitary office. I know in the Dark Ages, barbers were doctors, but that was when they'd put leeches on your to suck our your bad blood! ick!

Don't let biased web pages mislead you. Get information from objective sources, not a party clearly vested in the situation.
Ask questions and be fully informed. Give yourself the best healthcare you can.

It also says both have 4 years of medical training. Yes, but only a Medical Doctor's is from an Accredited Medical college. Anyone can give anyone 4 years of medical training, but only some are accredited medical schools. You can train in accupuncture medical training in China for 4 years or at a New Age Rolphing School, but it doesn't make you a Medical Doctor.

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Re: Home sick again, any suggestions for severe laryngitis?

also try slippery elm bark teas.
anyway, the osteopaths arent' as alternative as they used to be. If anything, it is the opposite problem, many of them now are just as allopothic and non-preventitive as "real" Drs, and some "real" mds are now into preventitive things,not just younger ones, sometimes it is the crotchety old "country Dr" types that quietly practiced alternative/preventitive all along before it became "hip" AGAIN (the old folk remedies).
The bottom line is what you prefer and talking to the provider before choosing. Like, even though pharmacists grind out kidney shredding drugs all day, many pharmacists will privately counsel you on all sorts of herbal remedies.
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FWIW... my family doctor in Phoenix is a D.O. My family doctor in Pgh., PA was a D.O. My family doctor in Iowa was a D.O. I never had my spine manipulated. ?????

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Re: Home sick again, any suggestions for severe laryngitis?

Rockabillie please don't bash something like this. You're facts are not correct.

My dad was a medical doctor/kidney surgeon/Urologist. I was treated exactly the same with any M.D. as I was when going to D.O.

In fact, probably better. So please don't bash something and scare people.
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Re: Home sick again, any suggestions for severe laryngitis?

Well, my laryngitis is hanging in there, sigh. I tried that warm grapefruit and honey last night, yuck warm grapefruit, not too tasty heated up, it didn't work on me. I was disappointed. I bought some NyQuil today, the pharmacist said I could take it with the antibiotics my doctor prescribed, so at least I should be able to sleep tonight. I wish this would go away.
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Re: Home sick again, any suggestions for severe laryngitis?

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See, this is an example of the misleading PR the D.O. web page is putting out.

States license ALL healthcare institutions, from vets to clinics to dialysis centers to acupuncturists to Medical Doctors. Our state healthcare department also includes sanitary checks for barbers and nail technicians in the same licensing process! So passing the state licensing DOES not state you're a doctor, it just says you keep a sanitary office. I know in the Dark Ages, barbers were doctors, but that was when they'd put leeches on your to suck our your bad blood! ick!

Don't let biased web pages mislead you. Get information from objective sources, not a party clearly vested in the situation.
Ask questions and be fully informed. Give yourself the best healthcare you can.

It also says both have 4 years of medical training. Yes, but only a Medical Doctor's is from an Accredited Medical college. Anyone can give anyone 4 years of medical training, but only some are accredited medical schools. You can train in accupuncture medical training in China for 4 years or at a New Age Rolphing School, but it doesn't make you a Medical Doctor.

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Oh dear Gosh you have some serious reading comp problems FROM my post and the link I posted:

Both have a four-year undergraduate degree with an emphasis in the sciences.

Both complete four years of medical education.

Both are fully trained and licensed to prescribe medication and perform surgery.


I would think if they could PERFORM SURGERY THEY WOULD BE A MEDICAL DOCTOR! If not, then anyone could legally perform surgery!

3T sorry to hijack the thread, just didn't want you to feel scared that this person was not a REAL doctor, when in fact they are. They just have an open mind and run toward homeopathic solutions before they administer drugs. Hope you feel better soon. {{{HUGS}}}
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