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Old 03-25-2003, 10:28 PM
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Question I need advice...

Not sure if you all know my one of my pitbulls had puppies this month. I have posted ads on a few pitbull classified websites. I got an email last week from a guy in Africa who was interested in three dogs. I am a little unsure of sending the dogs that far but okay. I look into it and they need special test & health Certificates. I in turn told him he must pay for & he will arrange all shipping. So everything seems fine then he emails me saying he has a client in the US that owes him $ and that they are going to send me a cashiers check in the amount of $2900.00 and I am to cash the check, take out the $ for the dogs and western union the rest to him in Africa. VERY STRANGE, But if I wait for the check to clear before wiring how can this be a scam??? Right?
Then to top it I get another email from another person in West africa wanting one dog. And wouldnt you know it they have a client in the US that owes them $5900.00 and wants me to do the same.
Has anyone ever heard of this or a scam like this???? I am worried they are not really interested in my puppies or even worse that there is some weird stuff going on in Africa with Pitbulls (Fighting them or maybe something worse...)

HELP WHAT SHOULD I DO?

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Old 03-25-2003, 10:32 PM
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This doesn't sound good. Two people emailing saying the same thing? I'd be leary....
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Old 03-25-2003, 10:37 PM
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Can't you sell your pitbulls locally?
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Old 03-26-2003, 12:33 AM
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It's apparently a wide-spead scam and the cashier's check turns out to be a forgery. I did a search at Yahoo and you can see the results [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now].


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Old 03-26-2003, 01:11 AM
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Old 03-26-2003, 07:47 AM
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Eegads..I had heard about a counterfeit cashier's check scam, but I hadn't heard it involving Africa...that's some scary doo-doo! I think it was one of the scams that was talked about for it's hitting the eBay scene. Whew...good thing you asked before going through w/ anything...way to go MariB!


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Old 03-26-2003, 09:12 AM
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Good job detective Mari! What a scam!

I guess puppies won't be heading to Africa any time soon.
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Aaaaahhhh...thanks guys. Glad I could help out.

When I read "West Africa" I immediately suspected something was up...West Africa is also the home of the infamous and annoying e-mail money scam that everyone seems to have received at least once.
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Old 03-26-2003, 11:16 AM
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exactly....yes this is a scam...I know a lady and her husband who were taken by this very scam...except in their case they were selling a car, not pitbulls....the bank will do NOTHING to help you. Don't fall for this scam!!!
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Please do not ever sell your animals to people you cannot meet. There are many people that do animal testing and torture that will take the puppy off of your hands.

More importantly, neuter/fix your animals if you can't keep their babies!
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THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!

I just received the cashiers check and deposited it in my bank. Of course the bank said it was "good money". I had already had the western union set up and THANK GOODNESS I got to cancel it. I am still out the $115.00 western union fee but that is much better then the $3600.00 that he sent me.
WHAT LOSERS!!!! Why can people get away with doing these things? I like anyone else assume if you have a cashiers check it is as good as money, Better yet once the bank cashes it. It is real money. I wouldnt think that they could contact you weeks down the road and say u owed the money. What a close call. I learned my lesson for trying to sell stuff over the internet.

THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR HELP!!!!
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Old 03-28-2003, 12:35 PM
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Yes, the lady I know did get information from her bank that by a certain time that day (I think it was 2 pm or something) that by then the money would be as sure as theirs...good money, in the bank....

That turned out not to be the case and they had chargebacks and were out that money.

Their story was featured on either 20/20 or 60 minutes, I can't remember now.

The person who contacts you is not interested in the item you're selling, it's just another money scam.
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Old 03-28-2003, 12:37 PM
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African Cashiers Check Scam
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We have recently received several emails concerning the legitimacy of a cashiers check transaction. Here is the way the scam works.

You have an item for sale. It could be a car, a dog, a boat, a computer etc. The person who contacts you is generally from another country. Typically Africa. The person tells you they would like to purchase the item and they have a business associate or someone that owes them money in the U.S. They tell you that since this person is in the U.S. they would like to have that person send you a cashiers check for the amount they are owed. Lets say in this case it's $8,000 and you have a car for sale for $4,000. They ask you to accept and cash the check for $8,000, keep $4000 and send them the remainder. The problem is that the cashiers check you receive is counterfeit. However, by the time the cashiers check is determined to be counterfeit, you have already sent the difference to them and your out the $4000

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The first thing I thought of when I read your thread was drug money. I could be wrong. I wouldn't ship the dogs there. There is something definitely amiss.
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