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Old 02-04-2003, 04:43 PM
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If you don't like the thread don't look at it.

All I can say is, I guess you had to be here. This is easier said than done when it takes over every post on the boards like it did last time.

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Old 02-04-2003, 04:44 PM
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We are in America and have freedom of religion and freedom of speech.

I will not put others down for their religion and I don't see any reason why anyone else should either.
freedom of speech does not apply to message boards.


As for the second sentence I quoted, sadly, not everyone thinks like you. There are people who do put down others who don't share their beliefs.
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Old 02-04-2003, 04:47 PM
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I'm asking honest questions here. Are religious issues of any kind going to be banned here as LISA1013 and the one mod think should be the case? (and I'm sure some others think). If that's the way it is going to be then quite honestly I am just not going to come back to the chit chat forum... NOT OUT OF SPITE, just because I think that it would get very boring around here. If there isn't an exchange of differing ideas in an adult way, then I don't really feel much interest. That's fine if others do, but I don't. I happen to enjoy discussion about issues that matter, discussion in which people can learn from each other. I would hope that that could happen here, but if it can't then so be it. I'm basically asking these questions because I don't want to go, but if I'm not allowed to disagree with anyone or talk about religion in any way shape or form, then this forum is just not cut out for me.
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Old 02-04-2003, 05:06 PM
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I understand what has happened in the past and peoples fear that the it could once again become ugly.........but todate everyone has been very understanding of other's views and I think that many of us are happy to have the opportunity to understand how others think. By learning to accept other's beliefs and understand that not everyone has to think & believe alike.............makes for a much better and tolerant community.
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Old 02-04-2003, 05:13 PM
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It seems like we have two groups of people...

1) Religious / contraverial issues can be discussed in adult manner, and unless it gets ugly, the thread should not be closed.

2) Religious / contraversial issues cannot be discussed here because it is possible it will end up getting ugly, like it has in the past

There needs to be an understanding which way it will be in the chit chat forum. I think this is where Mayor needs to step in and make known what he wants.
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Old 02-04-2003, 05:15 PM
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Where were you two in the past when he was doing the same thing? He was insulting people then asking them to apologize to him for things so ridiculous like misuse of grammar. Wish I had the time to go back and find all those posts.
I was not "defending" FUNdamental.
weather he made insulting remarks in the past,
or other post was not my point.

My point was that he was flamed,
( and most sites I go too would closed a thread for that)

the post I quoted from is a open post, (now)
and contains all those rude comments to him.
If certain people here, were insulted like that..
I'm suspecting the post would be closed.
( as I would suspect FUN's insulted post from the
past were closed also? )

It goes along the lines of WHY a post is closed..
or why it is not..
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I'm asking honest questions here. Are religious issues of any kind going to be banned here as LISA1013 and the one mod think should be the case? (and I'm sure some others think). If that's the way it is going to be then quite honestly I am just not going to come back to the chit chat forum... NOT OUT OF SPITE, just because I think that it would get very boring around here. If there isn't an exchange of differing ideas in an adult way, then I don't really feel much interest. That's fine if others do, but I don't. I happen to enjoy discussion about issues that matter, discussion in which people can learn from each other. I would hope that that could happen here, but if it can't then so be it. I'm basically asking these questions because I don't want to go, but if I'm not allowed to disagree with anyone or talk about religion in any way shape or form, then this forum is just not cut out for me.
Teraberry...why do you keep bringing up Lisa's name? It's not proving a point, she just voiced her opinion is all. She is not a mod here, she had nothing to do with the Mod deciding to close the thread. She was however here when all of the crap in the past happened...hence her opinion is something I certainly understand.

Wanted to add...I would rather see the thread closed well before someone has their views stomped into the ground because they differ from someone else's...than after the damage is done. Many of us have been here a long time...it's not difficult to almost predict the precise moment when the thread is going to go bad.
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Old 02-04-2003, 05:22 PM
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Just a reminder to everyone, don't forget that handy little button below each post that says, "Report this post to a moderator". If you think someone is being treated rudely or unfairly, report it. Mayor and the mods are not online 24/7 and probably have not read, and do not read, each and every post in each forum in its entirety.
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Old 02-04-2003, 05:35 PM
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teraberry, another good site to discuss religeous matters, with ALL SORTS of differenting opinions is at Crosswalk.com forums. I can't answer your question. I really wish you hadn't said that about leaving, it really takes away from the real matter you are asking.

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Old 02-04-2003, 05:50 PM
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teraberry, another good site to discuss religeous matters, with ALL SORTS of differenting opinions is at Crosswalk.com forums. I can't answer your question. I really wish you hadn't said that about leaving, it really takes away from the real matter you are asking.

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I wouldn't leave the site altogether, but the chit chat forum would no longer hold much interest to me. I know there are other sites out there. I like the diversity here and I come here anyway for other forums, and I know the people. So now it's just a matter of what is allowed here.
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Old 02-04-2003, 06:03 PM
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Teraberry...why would you leave? You had no problems discussing other matters in the past until you had been called on for trying to push religion into a post that had nothing to do with religion in the first place. Ever since then, you have been full tilt on getting some sort of religious discussions going. We are trying to tell you that it does not work here. We've seen what they turn into in the past. If nothing else, these threads right here should show you prime example.

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Since Sandy posted the link to Truthsoup, I have been popping in and out to see if anything has been going on.

There seems to be a pretty good discussion going, if anyone is interested. I have managed to stay out of it so far, but we KNOW how I am...lol.

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Old 02-04-2003, 06:12 PM
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Sandy, I post in lots of threads. I don't just post about religious things... and I use lots of the other forums here... freebies, deals, prayer requests, trade, reality tv, etc. I have been posting more here this year - not just the religious stuff but also more general topics. You said, "We are trying to tell you that it does not work here." Who's "we"? I know you do not speak for everyone here, because there are many who have posted in this thread who do not want religious topics banned from this forum. I do not think you can speak for Mayor and tell me that I should just not bring up religious issues at all anymore. I don't think that is what he would say.

If there are other threads that have been closed that needed to be then that's fine... let's try to use more common sense and self control, instead of throwing the baby out with the bath water.
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Old 02-04-2003, 06:27 PM
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Sandy, I post in lots of threads. I don't just post about religious things... and I use lots of the other forums here... freebies, deals, prayer requests, trade, reality tv, etc. I have been posting more here this year - not just the religious stuff but also more general topics.
I don't see where Sandy referenced anything other than discussions going on in GCC. Your contributions to other forums wasn't brought up. Just what has been happening since the infamous "depression" thread.

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You said, "We are trying to tell you that it does not work here." Who's "we"? I know you do not speak for everyone here, because there are many who have posted in this thread who do not want religious topics banned from this forum. I do not think you can speak for Mayor and tell me that I should just not bring up religious issues at all anymore. I don't think that is what he would say.
WHAT??? "WE" would be the several who have tried to ask you nicely (and sometimes not nicely) to give it a rest. It is more than ONE person, and it is NOT just Sandy. Sandy never said she wanted the topics BANNED. She just wanted a little constraint.

You have taken TWO posts..One from Lisa and one from Luv...and somehow twisted it into everyone is picking on you and wants religious posts done away with completely. Her point is clearly that you have begun this campaign, starting threads with controversial connotations SPECIFICALLY to get things stirred up, only since the "depression" thread.

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Re: Let's NOT let this thread get ugly!

[[b]Here's my question to the members here. Please answer this...

Do you personally want this forum to:

1) not allow discussion of any type of religion , thus avoiding possible problems

2) allow religious discussion and have the thread locked only if it got ugly

3) allow relgious discussion even if it did get ugly (I don't think any of us would choose this one)


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I vote for Number 1!!
....1) not allow discussion of any type of religion , thus avoiding possible problems!!!!
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