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Old 12-16-2002, 09:52 PM
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What do you think about Al Gore's decision not to seek the presidency in 2004?

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Old 12-16-2002, 10:50 PM
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Well shucks I always thought he was kinda cute and should of run again LOL


Just kidding .....


I actually think he should of ran again , I dont really know a lot about politics but from what I have seen I dont think hes really that bad of a man...... My mom would of loved for him to win the first time so I am sure shes pretty upset about his decision.
But he still can change his mind again cant he??
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Old 12-16-2002, 11:11 PM
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It sounds like he has no intention but, as the saying goes "never say never." I'm disappointed he didn't win in the last election and I would like to see him run in 2008 if not in 2004.
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Old 12-16-2002, 11:14 PM
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The man told so many lies and exaggerations, he made Clinton look like a saint. I don't know how people could possibly trust politicians with so little integrity. I even saw him yesterday on the Today Show and he twisted the truth concerning Trent Lott's situation to distort the facts. I'm both pleased and disappointed that he's not running. I'm disappointed, because I would have liked to have seen him get beat by G.W. again, this time with no legal manuevers in play. I'm pleased because it means there's no way we'll get him for President in the next election. But there's always Hillary.....
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Old 12-16-2002, 11:17 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that he won't be running.....I always liked him....*runs away before anyone can throw anything at me* LOL

I definitely do understand why, though....and I agree....the campaign would have been all about the past...not the future....that's a shame, but true
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Old 12-17-2002, 12:16 PM
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He already invented the internet...

does he really need to be president too?
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Old 12-17-2002, 12:37 PM
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Well shucks I always thought he was kinda cute
he used Dr Atkins advice to lose the weight!


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He already invented the internet...

does he really need to be president too?
Geeze Louise! He never said that! He mentioned that as a Senator he took the initiative in increasing funding for NSFNet, which became the High Performance Computing Act of 1991. The result was the Internet AS WE KNOW IT TODAY.

According to Vincent Cerf, a senior vice president with MCI Worldcom who's been called the Father of the Internet, "The Internet would not be where it is in the United States without the strong support given to it and related research areas by the Vice President in his current role and in his earlier role as Senator."The inventor of the Mosaic Browser, Marc Andreesen, credits Gore with making his work possible. He received a federal grant through Gore's High Performance Computing Act. The University of Pennsylvania's Dave Ferber says that without Gore the Internet "would not be where it is today." Joseph E. Traub, a computer science professor at Columbia University, claims that Gore "was perhaps the first political leader to grasp the importance of networking the country."

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Thank you, KathrynJB, for clearing that matter up. I think Al Gore is a great guy, and that he is honorable and honest. I'm sorry he was penalized for his association with Clinton (who was not such a great guy, but I thought he was a good president).

I'm glad Gore won't throw himself on the rocks this coming election, because I don't believe the Democrats will win, what with the dangers of war, etc. It would be unusual for the country to change Presidents and political parties in the middle of such a crisis. I don't want Gore to waste himself on this election. I've suggested to my elderly mother that she run, as she is also a liberal Democrat, and won't mind if she loses! LOL! But Gore should save himself for when he has a real chance to win.

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Old 12-17-2002, 01:36 PM
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He said in the interview amongst other things, " I took the initiative in creating the Internet."
And basically he is making himself out to have had way more influence than he did in reality, and often just lying...
Here's a great article that exposes the whole issue... (I thought the last sentence was particularly funny.)


Mar. 11, 1999 PT

WASHINGTON -- It's a time-honored tradition for presidential hopefuls to claim credit for other people's successes.

That's what the campaigner in chief told CNN's Wolf Blitzer during an interview Tuesday evening. Blitzer asked Gore how he was different than other presumptive Democratic challengers, such as Bill Bradley. "What do you have to bring to this that he doesn't necessarily bring to this process?"

Replied Gore: "I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins, and it'll be comprehensive and sweeping, and I hope that it'll be compelling enough to draw people toward it.... I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years."

Preliminary discussions of how the ARPANET would be designed began in 1967, and a request for proposals went out the following year. In 1969, the Defense Department commissioned the ARPANET.

Gore was 21-years-old at the time. He wasn't even done with law school at Vanderbilt University. It would be eight more years before Gore would be elected to the US House of Representatives as a freshman Democrat with scant experience in passing legislation, let alone ambitious proposals.

By that time, file copying -- via the UUCP protocol -- was beginning. Email was flourishing. The culture of the Internet was starting to develop through the Jargon File and the SF-Lovers mailing list.

Of course, politicians weren't completely unaware of the Internet.

According to one account, when Senator Ted Kennedy learned in 1968 that Massachusetts-based BBN had won the ARPA contract for an "interface message processor," he sent a congratulatory telegram. It thanked the upstanding folks at BBN for their ecumenical spirit in devising an "interfaith message processor."

Blitzer, unfortunately, didn't appear to know any of that. After Gore took credit for the Internet, Blitzer simply moved on talk about polls showing Texas governor George W. Bush and Elizabeth Dole ahead of the vice president.

Gore has taken credit for popularizing the term "information superhighway" and around 1991 penned related articles for publications such as Byte magazine. But the term "data highway" has been used as far back as 1975, before Gore entered Congress.

In 1990, Gore introduced a bill that would allow the federal government to enter the business of crafting software for teachers to use. Another Gore plan would create a new federal research center for educational computing to support an "information systems highway."

"Supercomputers are the steam locomotives of the information age," then-Senator Gore was quoted as saying in one article published in 1990. "In the Industrial Age, steam locomotives didn't do much good until the railroad tracks were laid down across the nation. Similarly, we now have supercomputers going into the seventh generation of supercomputers, but we don't have the interstate highways that we need to connect them.

"Within four years, the top-of-the-line US$20 million supercomputers will cost less than $400,000. A few years after that, they will be in the $10,000 to $20,000 range."

But the development of the Net has resembled less a government-managed industrial project -- such as the orderly interstate-highway systems Gore hoped for -- and more an anarchic sprawl.

"Gore played no positive role in the decisions that led to the creation of the Internet as it now exists -- that is, in the opening of the Internet to commercial traffic," said Steve Allen, vice president for communications at the conservative Progress and Freedom Foundation.

Since 1993, Gore has become one of the most prominent people in the Clinton administration on issues related to high technology. He hosts visiting businessmen and takes pride in personally announcing new technology initiatives such as Internet II funding.

He also took the lead in supporting the Clipper Chip and continued restrictions on the overseas shipments of encryption products.

High-visibility events can be prone to embarrassing slip-ups. At one recent White House event, Gore introduced Cisco Systems CEO John Chambers, who he had met with privately earlier that day.

Gore told the audience how much he valued Chambers and one of the products Cisco produced. But he mispronounced "routers" as root-ers.


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I admit he would have been easier on the eyes than ole Bush but I'm sure glad he wasnt president when 9-11 happened. He would still have his thumb up his uh........ nose.
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Old 12-17-2002, 03:51 PM
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It looks like I've opened a can of worms, but it is very interesting reading. Personally, I don't think what Clinton did had or should have any bearing on Al Gore. Unfortunately people will associate him with that, and maybe that's one reason to wait and run in 2008. I hope he will.
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It doesn't matter which party you are affiliated with....they are politicians!!! We can sit here all day and list what this one said or that one said and show rebuttals proving they stretched the truth or down right lied! Once again, they are politicians!!!...lol! It's sad that things have to get so heated.

I sit right here in the middle of both parties. I used to be a democrat [but not as liberal as people seem to think the whole party is], but now I'm an Independent. Now, my husband is a republican, although I keep telling him he's not...lol! He doesn't agree with everything in the republican party either....so I think my dh is really more of an independent also. So, here my dh and I sit in the middle of it all....it is such a fun household....lol!!!

Did anyone see Gore on SNL?....it was so funny! I loved that he made fun of his condescending way of speaking and the scene of how he choose Joe Lieberman as a running mate was just too much...it was a take off of "The Bachelor."

I voted for Gore, but I'm glad he isn't going to run again. It was a mess of an election and it just got so ridiculous in the end. No matter how you feel about Gore, he has a great background and he will do well in whatever he chooses. Let's just hope he doesn't grow that freakish beard again...lol!!!

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I wish Al Gore would run for the presidency again! I'd vote for him in a heartbeat. The man is brilliant and it's a darn shame that he won't get a chance to be president.

Now I'd have to say that I am rooting for Lieberman to run.


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