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Old 05-18-2002, 12:34 AM
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Question about immunization

My son will be going to kindergarten this fall, so we need some medical form to be fillled out. According to this paper he needs :
- 2 measles doses
- 1 mumps dose
- 1 rubella dose

he already received :
- 1 rubella dose
- 1 mumps dose
- 1 MMR ( measles, mumps, rubella)
it means he has 2 each rubella and mumps, but only 1 measles. We went to the doctors office today and doctor said they don't have a measles vaccine alone, only MMR. I don't want him to have triple doses other vaccines.
So, my question - where can I get that measles vaccine along ?
I have no clue where to find it and that doctor wasn't very friendly with me about it and didn't give me any advice other that to find another practice.
Any suggestions ?

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Old 05-18-2002, 12:42 AM
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to start Kindergarden they have to have a MMR....not just plain measles....At least here they do.

A triple dose spread out over years isn't going to hurt anything at all. I think they have to have 3 under their belt before they are 6 anyway. (could be wrong, been a couple of years...but have went through that 4 times)

Also here they are requiring the 3 shot series of Hepititis B before 1st grade now....Just a heads up for you on that because you have to have one, go back a month later and then 3 monthes after that. so it takes awhile to get the series done.

I do know that you can get the shots done for free at your local board of health and they have all the guidelines right there.
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Old 05-18-2002, 12:44 AM
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If you cannot find an office with only the one vaccine, it won't hurt him to get the total MMR. Try a doctor at a medical school teaching hospital.
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Old 05-18-2002, 01:03 AM
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Never heard of it being given seperately.

By the way, the Chicken Pox vaccination is also required in both Virginia and Illinois now. I can't say whether it is required anywhere else or not. A friend of mine is having a fit over the Chicken Pox vaccine. He says it has the potential to do more harm than good. I dunno about that. My 7 yr old had it, my 5 yr old had it... they did just fine with it.

Now what I want to know is, why the heck is a complete Dental Checkup required for entering Kindergarten here in IL? That has got to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard of! I can understand the vaccines - it endangers the health of the teachers and other students, but dental checkups?? Good heavens! What? Is a dirty tooth going to cause an allergic reaction to someone? Oh.. don't get me wrong.. nothing against dentists. The kids need to go to the dentist. It's just for the life of me I cannot figure out why on earth it should be a requirement for entering kindergarten!
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Old 05-18-2002, 01:08 AM
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Forgot about the new chicken pox one!!!! Think that one is across the board too.


The dental thing is because the school system wants to make sure that they have had their first dental checkup before entering school.....It's here too!

Where's Pip??? she could explain why!
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Your local health department should be able to give the immunizations the school requires or they can not a wavier till they can.There are shortages of some right now.
As far as to give the shots or not you have to look at your family history as part of the risks of the shots or the disease.My best friends son died of Chichenpox about 2 and 1/2 years ago.His wife had thought it was a good idea to take him to a pox party.A pox party is where you bring over all the kids friends to catch it from the sick kid so they are sick together.
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Old 05-18-2002, 09:50 AM
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ILoveElf [/i]
[B]As far as to give the shots or not you have to look at your family history as part of the risks of the shots or the disease.My best friends son died of Chichenpox about 2 and 1/2 years ago.His wife had thought it was a good idea to take him to a pox party.A pox party is where you bring over all the kids friends to catch it from the sick kid so they are sick together. [/B][/QUOTE]

OMG!!! That poor woman! I'm sure she never believed it would kill her son.

Vaccinations are always a hot issue. I know many people who refuse to vaccinate their kids...they figure the chances of their kids being exposed to the diseases are so minimal, they'd rather not take the chance with a vaccine.

My daughter contracted pertussis (whooping cough) from the vaccination when she was an infant. She almost died. She does have brain damage now from the illness. She is mentally retarded.

I still STRONGLY encourage everyone to vaccinate their kids for pertussis. (the P in DTP.) The chances of having a reaction to the vaccine are so small, that it's better to be safe...IMO. I watched my infant daughter suffer through the disease. I don't wish that on ANYONE. If the technology exists to prevent it, then prevent it.

(Just my two cents...lol.)
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Keep calling other offices. You can get the immunizations separately. Many people have opted for this route due to concerns regarding immunizations & autism. My first son had the mutiple as did my second but my third had them separate..........my second is autistic. Immunization related? I don't honestly know....but I didn't see any reason not to take the extra step of caution. And to be honest our new pedi dr only does them separately.

As far the dentist thing.......good question. Where is Pip?:)
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Old 05-18-2002, 01:07 PM
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My dd is also starting kindergarten this year and these are the shots that she had to have.

MMR
DTaP
Chicken pox (can't spell it)
TB test.


She is very glad that its over.

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When my youngest started kindergarten three years ago, they were already requiring the chicken pox vaccination. Now, and I'm not sure if it's just our area or more widespread, but my pediatrician has been nagging me to get ALL my kids (oldest is 14) the Hepatitis A series (Hep B is already required and my kids have all had those.) She says that it's becoming more common in this area, and may be required to attend school within the next few years. Does anyone have any experience with this series of shots? I'm a little nervous about it, as it's new.
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I didn't understand you.
Did your daughter contracted pertussis from the vaccination or because she wasn't vaccinated ?

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bdinalbq, My 6 year old that is in kindergarten this year did get the Hepatis A shots. It was a set of two shots, and he had no reaction. I didn't have them give it to my 5 year old because I didn't think she could handle a forth shot at that one apt. Now I wish I did because one of the shots would be over with.

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by kells3 [/i]
[B]bdinalbq, My 6 year old that is in kindergarten this year did get the Hepatis A shots. It was a set of two shots, and he had no reaction. I didn't have them give it to my 5 year old because I didn't think she could handle a forth shot at that one apt. Now I wish I did because one of the shots would be over with.

Kelly [/B][/QUOTE]

Thanks for that information Kelly! I know my pediatrician said there would be no side effects, but ....I tend to need other parents input before I really feel comfortable. It's good to know your kids had no problems with it.
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Re: Question about immunization

[QUOTE=kakaktus;513734]My son will be going to kindergarten this fall, so we need some medical form to be fillled out. According to this paper he needs :
- 2 measles doses
- 1 mumps dose
- 1 rubella dose

he already received :
- 1 rubella dose
- 1 mumps dose
- 1 MMR ( measles, mumps, rubella)
it means he has 2 each rubella and mumps, but only 1 measles. We went to the doctors office today and doctor said they don't have a measles vaccine alone, only MMR. I don't want him to have triple doses other vaccines.
So, my question - where can I get that measles vaccine along ?
I have no clue where to find it and that doctor wasn't very friendly with me about it and didn't give me any advice other that to find another practice.
Any suggestions ?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
If I were you, I would really check into:

1. Getting the MMR all together, I think if you look around you will find they are given seperately.
2. Never OVER immunizing.
3. Check out a few places on Autism and the MMR vaccine. It's really worth finding out about. One that just gives facts on the case that is going on right now is a site "U. S. Court of Federal Claims." You should read about it, it's really not opinionated, just facts from the court case.
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Re: Question about immunization

My 10 yr. old son has autism, and I didn't believe the stories about the shots causing it until I started doing research. The shots all used to have mercury (aka thimerasol) in them, and the number of autism cases rose dramatically as kids got more and more shots. Apparently, some children are more susceptible to heavy metal poisoning, being unable to expel it as well as the rest of us. Mercury has been taken out of pediatric vaccines for the last few years, EXCEPT for the FLU SHOT! (I know for a fact that my son changed drastically both of the times he received the flu shot, and was subsequently diagnosed with autism.) So be very careful about giving that to your kids. Ask for the one without mercury.

Many find the MMR is worrisome because it puts 3 different viruses into your child at the same time. Because of this, many cautious doctors now give three separate shots, spread out over several months. There is rising concern about giving several shots to your child at one time. While more convenient, there are now doubts as to its safety. Yes, maybe MOST kids can handle it, but what if your kid is the one who can't? Autism is showing up in one out of 160 kids (maybe more), so get your kids vaccinated, but don't do it all at once.

Oh, and really think if each of the new vaccines is truly necessary. Kids in the '80's got 8 vaccines by the time they were two. Kids today get 37(!) by the time they are 18 months old. Sure, vaccines can prevent epidemics, but did we have terrible epidemics in the 80's? No! But we do now ..... an epidemic of autism. So I say, err on the side of caution!

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