WMDs and The Psychology of Fanaticism

[bwsmom]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Juliannaluv [/i]
[B]LOL....Jwelch. Of course Jes's list doesn't wash. It doesn't say anywhere that Bush is the Devil.

This thread is hilarious!!!!! All I can do is laugh at the way you all bicker back and forth like a couple of children. Some statements with merit, some without!!!

Some peoples' children

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Awww....you're taking the fun out of it! For many of us, this is sport. Kinda like a tennis match. They serve, we return, we volley for a while, then go on to something else... see? ;)
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[Juliannaluv]

Oh, sorry to spoil the fun. I get it now.

I love tennis, Carry on!!!! ;) :D
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[valleygirl]

here are 2 emails I received recently. No, I did not check them for accuracy or for facts, if you need to do that, do it yourself.:D I am just posting a humorous joke and a list that sounds a bit on the scary side.

1. Hillary Clinton goes to a primary school to talk about the world. After her talk she offers question time. One little boy puts up his hand, and the Senator asks him what his name is.

"Billy"

"And what is your question, Billy?"

"I have three questions. First - whatever happened to your medical health care plan; second - why would you run for President after your husband shamed the office; and third - whatever happened to all those things you took when you left the White House?"

Just then the bell rings for recess. Hillary Clinton informs the kiddies that they will continue aorld. After her talk she offers question time. One little boy puts up his hand, and the Senator asks him what his name is.

"Billy"

"And what is your question, Billy?"

"I have three questions. First - whatever happened to your medical health care plan; second - why would you run for President after your husband shamed the office; and third - whatever happened to all those things you took when you left the White House?"

Just then the bell rings for recess. Hillary Clinton informs the kiddies that they will continue after recess.

When they resume Hillary says, "Okay where were we?
Oh, that's right, question time. Who has a question?"

A different little boy puts his hand up; Hillary points him out and asks him what his name is.

"Steve"

"And what is your question, Steve?"

"I have five questions. First - whatever happened to your medical health care plan; second - why would you run for President after your husband shamed the office; third - whatever happened to all those things you took when you left the White House; fourth - whfter recess.

When they resume Hillary says, "Okay where were we?
Oh, that's right, question time. Who has a question?"

A different little boy puts his hand up; Hillary points him out and asks him what his name is.

"Steve"

"And what is your question, Steve?"

"I have five questions. First - whatever happened to your medical health care plan; second - why would you run for President after your husband shamed the office; third - whatever happened to all those things you took when you left the White House; fourth - why did the bell ring 20 minutes early; and fifth - what happened to Billy?



2. PEOPLE CLINTON DIDN' T HAVE TO PARDON

Just a few people Clinton didn't have to Pardon.

1. James McDougal
Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack,
while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

2. Mary Mahoney
A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop
in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with hery did the bell ring 20 minutes early; and fifth - what happened to Billy?



2. PEOPLE CLINTON DIDN' T HAVE TO PARDON

Just a few people Clinton didn't have to Pardon.

1. James McDougal
Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack,
while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

2. Mary Mahoney
A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop
in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story
of sexual harassment in the White House.

3. Vince Foster
Former white House councilor,
and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm.
Died of a gunshot wound to the head; ruled a suicide.

4. Ron Brown
Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman.
Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash.
A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of
Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, an story
of sexual harassment in the White House.

3. Vince Foster
Former white House councilor,
and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm.
Died of a gunshot wound to the head; ruled a suicide.

4. Ron Brown
Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman.
Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash.
A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of
Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

5. C. Victor Raiser II & Montgomery Raiser
Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization.
Died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6. Paul Tulley
Democratic National Committee Political Director
found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992.
Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".

7. Ed Willey
Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a
gunshot wound to the d spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

5. C. Victor Raiser II & Montgomery Raiser
Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization.
Died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6. Paul Tulley
Democratic National Committee Political Director
found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992.
Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".

7. Ed Willey
Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a
gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife
Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House.
Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8. Jerry Parks
Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock.
Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock.
Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton.
He allegedly threatened to reveal this information.
After he died, the files were mysteriouslhead. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife
Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House.
Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8. Jerry Parks
Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock.
Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock.
Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton.
He allegedly threatened to reveal this information.
After he died, the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9. James Bunch
Died from a gunshot suicide.
It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names
of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

10. James Wilson
Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide.
He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.


11. Kathy Ferguson
Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994,
in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide eveny removed from his house.

9. James Bunch
Died from a gunshot suicide.
It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names
of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

10. James Wilson
Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide.
He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.


11. Kathy Ferguson
Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994,
in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even
though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere.
Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones
lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12. Bill Shelton
Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson.
Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994
of a gunshot wound. Also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13. Gandy Baugh
Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Las
though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere.
Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones
lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12. Bill Shelton
Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson.
Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994
of a gunshot wound. Also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13. Gandy Baugh
Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater,
died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994.
His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14. Florence Martin
Accountant and sub-contractor for the CIA,
was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case.
He died of three gunshot wounds.

15. Suzanne Coleman
Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General.
Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head; ruled a suicide.
Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16. Paula Grober
Clintosater,
died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994.
His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14. Florence Martin
Accountant and sub-contractor for the CIA,
was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case.
He died of three gunshot wounds.

15. Suzanne Coleman
Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General.
Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head; ruled a suicide.
Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16. Paula Grober
Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992.
She died in a one car accident.

17. Danny Casolaro
Investigative reporter.
Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority.
He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18. Paul Wilcher
Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment.
Had delivered a report to Janet n's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992.
She died in a one car accident.

17. Danny Casolaro
Investigative reporter.
Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority.
He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18. Paul Wilcher
Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment.
Had delivered a report to Janet Reno three weeks before his death.

19. Jon Parnell Walker
Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corporation.
Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993.
He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.

20. Barbara Wise
Commerce Department staffer.
Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang.
Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996.
Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21. Charles Meissner
AssistanReno three weeks before his death.

19. Jon Parnell Walker
Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corporation.
Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993.
He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.

20. Barbara Wise
Commerce Department staffer.
Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang.
Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996.
Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21. Charles Meissner
Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance.
Died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22. Dr. Stanley Heard
Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee.
Died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash.
Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council,
personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

23. Barry Seal
Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas; death was no accident.

24. Johnny Lawhorn Jr.
Mect Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance.
Died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22. Dr. Stanley Heard
Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee.
Died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash.
Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council,
personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

23. Barry Seal
Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas; death was no accident.

24. Johnny Lawhorn Jr.
Mechanic
Found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop.
He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25. Stanley Huggins
Investigated Madison Guarantee.
His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.


26. Hershell Friday
Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

27. Kevin Ives & Don Henry
Known as "The boys on the track" case.
Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airporhanic
Found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop.
He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25. Stanley Huggins
Investigated Madison Guarantee.
His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.


26. Hershell Friday
Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

27. Kevin Ives & Don Henry
Known as "The boys on the track" case.
Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation.
A controversial case, the initial report of death said ...
"due to falling asleep on railroad tracks."
Later reports claim the two boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks.
Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.


THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION
IN THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28. Keith Coney
Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July 88.

29. Keith McMaskle
Died.
(A slight understatment)
Stabbed 113 tit drug operation.
A controversial case, the initial report of death said ...
"due to falling asleep on railroad tracks."
Later reports claim the two boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks.
Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.


THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION
IN THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28. Keith Coney
Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July 88.

29. Keith McMaskle
Died.
(A slight understatment)
Stabbed 113 times, Nov 1988

30. Gregory Collins
Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31. Jeff Rhodes
He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

33. James Milan
Found decapitated.
However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes".

34. Jordan Kettleson
Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

35. Richard Winters
A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths.
He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.


THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BOmes, Nov 1988

30. Gregory Collins
Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31. Jeff Rhodes
He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

33. James Milan
Found decapitated.
However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes".

34. Jordan Kettleson
Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

35. Richard Winters
A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths.
He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.


THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:

36. Major William S. Barkley Jr.
37. Captain Scott J. Reynolds
38. Sgt. Brian Hanley
39. Sgt. Tim Sabel
40. Major General William Robertson
41. Col. William Densberger
42. Col. Robert Kelly
43. Spec. Gary Rhodes
44. Steve Willis
45. Robert Williams
46. Conway LeBleu
47. Todd McKeehan


Quite an impressive list! Pass this on & let the public become aware of what happens to friends of the Clinton's!
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[Juliannaluv]

Who needs enemies when you have friends like the Clintons????

I am not taking sides, by any means, I don't necessarily "support" either the Bush's or the Clinton's....just an interesting list is all.
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[freesurfer]

Great thread again!!


Whose turn is it to speak??



:D
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[hrdlife1]

thank you for a very insightful intelligent thread in a plethera of blabber, this really made me think!

(just remember to keep personal attacks out of it, k? ;) )
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[jeskibuff]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Jwelch111 [/i]
[B]Please list 5 things that G. W. Bush has done, BESIDES TAX CUTS, in which you take pride. ( I will NOT accept any unfinished business, like the Afghanistan mess and the Iraq colonization.[/B][/QUOTE]
Hey, didn't I play along with your rules? I listed 5 things that Bush has done (besides tax cuts) in which I take pride. I didn't MENTION Iraq or Afghanistan. By the way, those ARE two great accomplishments. It's just that you demand superhuman feats from Republicans, but readily accept subhuman and animal behaviour from Democrats. It's easy to focus on problems and NOBODY said there wouldn't be problems. It would be STUPID to think it would all go like clockwork.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Jwelch111 [/i]
[B]You list personal characteristics of Bush, NOT actual deeds. Please come back with a list of ACCOMPLISHMENTS, NOT vague descriptions of Bush's "FOCUS."[/B][/QUOTE]
Well, if you'd just quit moving the target, it WOULD make things a little easier. You didn't specify "actual deeds" in your initial request. I aim to please, but you're like Lucy in "Peanuts", yanking the football away from Charlie Brown just as he's about to kick it. Besides, I published a list of accomplishments in another post. Is this a trap? Do you want me to repeat it, then accuse me of repeating it? See [url]http://www.dealofday.com/board/showthread.php?postid=698141#post698141[/url]
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[luvmetender]

oy vey...

hey jesk! I don't usually see you on here this late - are you turning into a nightowl?
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[jeskibuff]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Jwelch111 [/i]
[B]Incidently, I am reminded of an exhibition of Bush's focus. Once, after another deadly attack in the M.E, Bush was questioned as to his reaction. His reply was the usual tough words, and then, not missing a beat, said: "Now watch my drive!" (He was golfing at the time)[/B][/QUOTE]
Hmmm...are you saying G.W. HAS or DOES NOT HAVE focus??? Wasn't he focusing on his [b]golf game[/b]??? He wasn't playing golf in the middle of a press conference, was he??? Who said he's required to give a lecture on the Middle East peace process in the middle of a game? The only thing he should've done was end his statement a little differently. Like, "Now watch my drive, you old brain-rotted hag, Helen Thomas!" :D
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[bwsmom]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by jeskibuff [/i]
[B]I aim to please, but you're like Lucy in "Peanuts", yanking the football away from Charlie Brown just as he's about to kick it. Besides, I published a list of accomplishments in another post. Is this a trap? Do you want me to repeat it, then accuse me of repeating it? See [url]http://www.dealofday.com/board/showthread.php?postid=698141#post698141[/url][/B][/QUOTE]

Oh my word.... I somehow managed to overlook that entire thread, but when I clicked on your link and looked at what was there.... did she really say your "strong" beliefs were "sadly, one-sided"?!?!? Did I read that right??? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!!! I'm guessing that should've read more like "Sadly, they're one-sided....and it's not my side!" Just when I thought she couldn't surprise me anymore with her antics!!! Too funny, jes! Thanks for the link!! (BTW, the list was awesome! Well done!) :)
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[bwsmom]

Before I forget... jes, I think you've cornered the market on being "unfair" to our sparring partners here! After all, what's more unfair than keeping their feet to the fire the way [B]you[/B] do?!? You challenge them to back up their stories with facts. You don't let them duck out and change the subject when one of their theories is proven to be completely baseless. You call a fraud a.... (gasp!) "FRAUD"!!! IMHO, [i]you're[/i] the one being totally unfair here! I think I'm pretty soft on them compared to you!!

But, that's okay....I don't mind playing second fiddle to someone such as yourself! And gosh darnit....if you're gonna be unfair, I'm gonna be right there to back you up in your unfairness! ;) And now, back to our regularly scheduled thread....
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[Jwelch111]

Pulling the thread back to topic, without unraveling it, I'd like to ask about WMDs. Does it matter if they are never found? Do you believe that they were "moved", and, if you do, are you aware that SOME evidence of their existence in Iraq would remain? "Holding feet to the fire": how responsible is Bush for the Iraq Invasion? Does the title of C-I-C mean that Bush is responsible for the results of the Invasion, not just now, but years from today? Senator Hagel (R) says he sees that we will be in Iraq for {at least} FIVE YEARS. Will the blame for a potential quagmire (my word) be shuffled to Rumsfeld, Franks (quitting), Powell, or some in the second tier of power: Wolfowitz or Perle (also quit : Defense Board position). Or will Bush step up to the plate ( a fine Republican phrase! Love those sport terms!) and say: "I done did it! And isn't Daddy proud? Rid the world of SADDAM... {Iraq's just messy right now...and ~~HOT~~}
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[Jwelch111]

valleygirl: the joke you posted has been more widely circulated with G.W. Bush asked questions in the classroom. Seems like the freepers (Free Republic online) are re-working a Democratic idea again! The punchline remains the same, and, in MO, is much more believable with Bush!!
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[jeskibuff]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Jwelch111 [/i]
[B]Pulling the thread back to topic, without unraveling it, I'd like to ask about WMDs.[/B][/QUOTE]

In other words, "Can we change the subject?"

Nahhh.

We can talk about WMDs until we're blue in the face. You wouldn't listen to what we have to say anyway, unless we insert Bush hatred into every other sentence of the conversation. That gets to be rather tedious.

It's much more fun to take advantage of these opportunities you've afforded us. FUNdamental dug himself a nice hole...he set a trap and fell in it. You set yourself up by accusing others of using the same tactic that you use (repetition and talking out both sides of your mouth). How can we refuse these beautiful opportunities that you provide? Besides, I kind of like the smell of burning sole! :D
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[Jwelch111]

What's your point, jeskibuff? Did you really say anything in your last post? You certainly didn't answer my questions: "Does it matter if they {WMDs} are never found?.... how responsible is Bush for the results of the Iraq Invasion?" It seems BUSH is digging a hole for himself, and causing serious doubts to his credibility in accessing threats to our country. "Bush and the Credibility Factor: Discuss." And pulling a thread back to topic is not "changing the subject." It was seriously pulled OT, and, as the creator of this thread, I will be protective of its discussions. So there!!:p
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