Should a Death Row Inmate Get an Organ Transplant?

[NaomiMarie]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by aprilgail [/i]
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DITTO...and the more they suffer the better...they can sit there in their pain thinking of their victims!!
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AMEN!

[cujo0123]

OK. I have some real strong feelings going on about this. My bf is on dialysis and needs a kidney. My opinion is that the person in jail is going to die anyway most appeals don't work the way the prisoner wants. If a family member wants to pay and donate a kidney to the prisoner, fine. However, why should some loser get a kidney when my bf (or whoever else is a decent citizen) needs one and has many years ahead in life? Dialysis can keep a kidney patient alive for years if the family wants to keep the prisoner alive until his/her sentence is carried through, fine. But, I don't think that they should get special treatment or free care. My bf and I have some serious money issues because of all of the medical bills. Why should the state pay for a prisoner and not my law abiding bf?

I think death row inmates should be required to donate all organs as part of their debt to society. They might be a murderer but if after they die they can save or improve the life of several people I think that would be a better payment to society.

[cinifini]

Not on your life!!!!!! If I needed one today, I could NOT get on the list. The man is on DEATH row, and even if he was serving life I don't think he is entitled...I think that sentence reads something like "in prison for the rest of your NATURAL life" NOT for the rest of the life we extend for you.

I'm sorry if I sound cold...there are just too may people out there alot more deserving and who will NEVER get the opportunity!
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[kewlgirl29]

I say no. I also am always amazed at how people can live on death row for so long. I know there needs to be some time for appeals and such but more than 2 years is pushing it if you ask me.
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[freesurfer]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by monkee [/i]
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I can understand giving inmates [B]basic[/B] medical care, but when you get into these kinds of treatments, if they (or their families) can't pay for it, then they shouldn't get it. I'd be curious to know if this man could afford to have this treatment were he not in prison. If not, why should he get more while in prison than he would get if he were outside? [/B][/QUOTE]


wouldn't this fall under putting other people in charge of who is worthy of being saved and whose not? DO we have that right to judge others? Just a thought.


I agree they shouldn't get special treatment but they do over alot of people who can't afford things.

Death row is simple a place for people to sit because "someone" doesn't want the death toll number to come under theito have this treatment were he not in prison. If not, why should he get more while in prison than he would get if he were outside? [/B][/QUOTE]


wouldn't this fall under putting other people in charge of who is worthy of being saved and whose not? DO we have that right to judge others? Just a thought.


I agree they shouldn't get special treatment but they do over alot of people who can't afford things.

Death row is simple a place for people to sit because "someone" doesn't want the death toll number to come under their term in government. Does that make sense?

[freesurfer]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by monkee [/i]
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I can understand giving inmates [B]basic[/B] medical care, but when you get into these kinds of treatments, if they (or their families) can't pay for it, then they shouldn't get it. I'd be curious to know if this man could afford to have this treatment were he not in prison. If not, why should he get more while in prison than he would get if he were outside? [/B][/QUOTE]


wouldn't this fall under putting other people in charge of who is worthy of being saved and whose not? DO we have that right to judge others? Just a thought.


I agree they shouldn't get special treatment but they do over alot of people who can't afford things.

Death row is simple a place for people to sit because "someone" doesn't want the death toll number to come under theito have this treatment were he not in prison. If not, why should he get more while in prison than he would get if he were outside? [/B][/QUOTE]


wouldn't this fall under putting other people in charge of who is worthy of being saved and whose not? DO we have that right to judge others? Just a thought.


I agree they shouldn't get special treatment but they do over alot of people who can't afford things.

Death row is simple a place for people to sit because "someone" doesn't want the death toll number to come under their term in government. Does that make sense?

[freesurfer]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by monkee [/i]
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mayfly:
This is something else I was thinking about. Why is this guy getting dialysis in the first place? I can understand giving inmates [B]basic[/B] medical care, but when you get into these kinds of treatments, if they (or their families) can't pay for it, then they shouldn't get it. I'd be curious to know if this man could afford to have this treatment were he not in prison. If not, why should he get more while in prison than he would get if he were outside? [/B][/QUOTE]

[TAG]

NO NO NO !!!


Id be PLENTY po'd if someone i knew needed a transplant and couldnt get one, cuz they gave the organs to someone who is GOING TO DIE ANYWAY. money should NOT be a consideration, no matter who you are, but there are some higher ups trying to say that if ya got money you deserve to live ??? PURE B~S :{ this guy is going to DIE anyway, why should the people have to pay to help keep him alive ????


whats he still doing alive if hes been given the death penalty ??? once a person is sentenced to die, they should NOT be allowed to live for years and years at the expense of the taxpayers, who are paying to keep them fed, clean, and ALIVE.

do the crime, do the time...or the death if so ordered.
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[brieke]

I live in Oregon so I am very interested in this story.This man/monster spent time in jail right here in my small hometown so I know more about this person than most of you.He doesn't deserve to live AT ALL and he shouldn't receive dialysis while in prison either.I wish they'd execute him tomorrow.I was horrified when I read about what he'd done to those sisters.He offered them a ride and kept them captive for hours,torturing them,stabbing them and pushing the one that lived out of the vehicle hoping she would die from her wounds.I can't even imagine the horror those women went through!There is no way this man will be pardoned.Oregon wants to save some money?Execute him NOW!!! :{



Sorry if I offended anyone but I feel so strongly about this.
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[freesurfer]

Just think that the pain those parents go through knowing this man is still alive and their kids are not. That is what I don't understand about death row. It shouldn't be something that takes so much time to execute them. It should just be done and over with, especially if clearly guilty.
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[unicorn31973]

This is actually a kind of interesting line of questioning for me because it hits me personally on two accounts. First of all my daughter is doing a school project that has her on the con side of convicts getting transplants and this is how I found this forum helping her do research. The second part that is very near and dear to my heart is that I have an old friend who is in his early 30's whom became very ill and discovered he has a rare kidney disease and had to quit working. This friend strangely enough does have 4 kids. When he could no longer work his wife of 6 years filled for divorce. He now has moved back home to his mothers and has just got a rejection letter for transplant due to unsteady income and unsteady insurance simply because he cannot work. This man has worked hard for most of his life and now may loose his life simply because he is ill, by the way he has never done drugs and rarely drank. When he did drink it was very little. So, given the research I've done and personal experience, prisoners should not be allowed to get transplants or even dialysis, just minnor preventative medical care until they are out of jail and can take care of themselves. Paying for them to stay in jail is enough. We need to start taking care of our hard working citizens. Do you really think the children of people who die because our government cared more for prisoners then their parent whom were not in jail are going to respect others or the government when they become adults. I'm sorry but if your in jail you either did wrong or your hang around the wrong people or places. It's time for you to take your punishment and if you get out then you can work on a new life for yourself. Don't be takeing life from someone else who knew better than to get into trouble.