Is Agel honest and ethical?

[BKS]

I new something was wrong with this Agel people - Intuition feminine may be! But my husband after having done lots of research about MLM realise that Network Marketing was a great business.

Unfortunatly he didn't do much research on Agel and join them.

But just few days later he realise that it's a very bad company. This Agel people are not honest and etichal. You can see the all story on [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now]. Now we found the best company for a family and we are very happy and excited with this new venture.



So if you want to save money and time, do your home-work and you will be fine. Unless if you don't have any integrity.

Good luck

[verwon]

You will discover, that very few MLM marketing schemes are reliable, ethical or legal.

[katlnhats]

Originally Posted by verwon

You will discover, that very few MLM marketing schemes are reliable, ethical or legal.

Hi,

I totally agree with that statement, I personally don't know of any. I've heard horror storys about lots of them though.

Kat

[Reprobate]

The company itself is ethical and honest, though I think the reseller you have encountered may not have been.

It seems a lot of MLMers will say anything just to get a sign-up. They'll promise the world. And under-deliver.

Check out [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now] for tips on how to avoid getting scammed by dishonest MLM members.

[Jeff O'Hora]

Originally Posted by BKS

I new something was wrong with this Agel people - Intuition feminine may be! But my husband after having done lots of research about MLM realise that Network Marketing was a great business.

Unfortunatly he didn't do much research on Agel and join them.

But just few days later he realise that it's a very bad company. This Agel people are not honest and etichal. You can see the all story on [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now]. Now we found the best company for a family and we are very happy and excited with this new venture.

So if you want to save money and time, do your home-work and you will be fine. Unless if you don't have any integrity.

Good luck

I'll preface my comments by first saying that I am NOT an Agel distributor, nor am I the least bit interested. I am in Network Marketing and have been on and off for many years. I'm with a top notch company, that in my opinion is far superior to Agel, far superior.

With that said, I totally disagree with your comments about the the company and the leadership being dishonest and unethical. It reflects your own lack of serious investigation and shallow intellect on the matter. I've personally met and worked with one of the owners/founders of Agel and have known him for well over 10 years now. He is a person of good character and credibility. He has an impeccable record on those points both in and out of the industry.

Furthermore, several of the leaders like Eric Worre and Randy Gage you lump into unethical and dishonest have equally solid reputations. Frankly, your comment about your husband doing in-depth research on the network marketing industry and almost no research into Agel and it's leadership and products strikes me as a "red flag" as to yours and his ability to do serious due diligence.

Additionally, I find it just a little disingenuous on your part to be posting such rants followed by, "Now we found the best company ..." raises the specter as to what your real motives may be in this rant.

And last but not least, your other comment at the end, "So if you want to save money and time, do your home-work and you will be fine. Unless if you don't have any integrity." raises another serious question, two actually. One is if you mean what you said here, then what happened with yours and your husband's own "home work"? Quite obviously from your rantings here, you both failed in this regard. Thus the logical conclusion from YOUR words is that you personally lack integrity. And the second question that screams out at the reader has to be, "Based upon her rants and mud slinging and her own admission that she/they are incapable of doing serious due diligence, why would I or anyone for that matter want to follow them in business?" ... thus proverbially "shooting yourselves in the foot".

Frankly, I think you would have been better off to keep your mouth shut and thereby not revealing your ignorance and go about the business of building a serious business in NetWORK marketing. Notice the emphasis on WORK? That's what it's going to take. And while you are at it, I suggest you do some serious due diligence into your new business opportunity.

Jeff O'Hora
NetWORK Marketer

[Reprobate]

Thanks Jeff for your insightful and honest post.

BKS signed up, made the post and never returned to dealofday.com again. So I think it was just an attempt to get a link to their blog.

I enjoyed reading your post, what you said and how you said it. It's also noted that you didn't put any links to a website or a mention of the MLM you are with. So kudos to you.

[Jeff O'Hora]

Originally Posted by Reprobate

The company itself is ethical and honest, though I think the reseller you have encountered may not have been.

It seems a lot of MLMers will say anything just to get a sign-up. They'll promise the world. And under-deliver.

Check out [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now] for tips on how to avoid getting scammed by dishonest MLM members.

I realize these posts here have been up for a while now, but I thought I'd still add my two cents worth.

Agel has attracted a couple of "heavy hitters" to promote the business. The inference of course is that "If these guys are here/doing it, it must really be good/hot!" While that may or may not be true of a given opportunity be it Agel or some other company, one needs to look beyond the big names to make some determination as to whether or not it really is a serious opportunity based on merits unrelated to the superstar celebs.

Let's take Randy Gage for an example. Randy is a talented, smart, well respected guy with a strong reputation for training. 10 - 15 years ago Randy's seminars were very popular and he commanded a high price for his weekend training seminars. His cassette series sold big time. I owned one of them myself back in the early 90's. I never attended any of his seminars. Having come out of the corporate insurance world, I had been to my share of trainings by a wide range of super stars from the insurance industry. As well, I also attended things like Tom Hopkins's weekend long Boot Camp seminars. Randy's material was for the most part his personality overlaid on already established concepts and ideas. For me at least not a lot new there. But people were willing to pony up $5 g's to hear and watch him present it for a weekend.

So with that reputation going for him, the idea that he "came out of retirement" to do Agel would seem to imply that "this must really be something big!" ... maybe. And maybe not. Personally, I think Randy "came out of retirement" not because Agel is so great, but because he no longer would command the money he once did. The advent of the Internet has changed the face of training. Furthermore, the plethora of new companies with slick web sites packed with good training materials and trainers has greatly watered down the demand and the need for people to train people. Frankly, network marketing is a very simple business at it's core. It's an easy business that can be hard to do. Easy because it only takes a consistency of effort doing some simple activities day in and day out. Hard in that most people will not be consistent with those activities.

But in many cases, there is a library of training available to the new distributor a mere few clicks away. For example in my own case and company, my back office has previously recorded product and business training calls. Without going there now to count it all, I'd guesstimate we have somewhere in the range of 200 hours on the products and nutritional science. And we have another 200+ hours on business training. Many of those hours of business training are not by "professional trainers", but instead by hands on, in the field distributors/business builders , who are earning any where from $100k a year to well in excess of a a million dollar$ a year and in a few cases, in excess of $2 million ... a year! And it's F-R-E-E from the comfort of my home!! So who needs a Randy Gage?

Here's my point. Randy's a quality guy and a sharp business builder. I take nothing away from him. (I wish he were in my organization! Long term, he'd stand to make a LOT more money despite his front line to Agel corporate position. ;-)) And the people who will get his training at Agel will greatly benefit from him. But it's my belief/opinion, that Randy was lured into Agel for the opportunity to be on the company's front line and because he needed to get back in the game in order to maintain his lifestyle. The days of big ticket seminars netting $10 G's in a day or $100 - $250k+ on a Power Weekend Seminar are for the most part all over for a lot of these guys.

So what does that leave in terms of Agel's draw? Well the USP (Unique Selling Proposition) is the reputed patented suspension technology, the delivery system for the nutrients. To the uninitiated, all the buzz and talk they present about the failure of nutritionals to be assimilated by the body and thus the stories of vitamins clogging sewer and septic systems is hyped. Well that may well have been true to some extent 15 - 20 years ago, but it isn't true today and hasn't been for a long time now. the science and technology has advanced to the point that a pill/tablet can within 15 - 20 minutes be fully broken down in the gut and assimilated into the blood stream. Furthermore, liquid nutritionals are now common place in the market.

Agel has no USP to speak of. That leaves them with depending on the quality of the products. I've been around this industry, health/wellness now for close to 15 years. I'm not the least impressed with Agel's quality. Some of the ingredients used I wouldn't consume. In fact I think that some of what they've used and since changed points to a lack of clarity on the part of the corporate leadership as to what a demanding consumer is willing to accept, when it comes to high end nutritional science. Artificial colors, sweeteners and additives from a so-called "leading age" health products company?!? Come on, get real!

I'm not a betting man, but if I was I'd bet you dollars to donuts that Agel will be gone in five years or less. It's just way too competitive out there to make it big time with what they are offering. And this is way longer than I meant it to be, so I didn't even comment on the convoluted, complicated nature of the compensation plan. There is NO WAY one could communicate that comp plan to a prospect in 2 - 3 minutes, such that they would be able to grasp it. I wish Randy & company well in their endeavors. Regrettably, I think he and they will be sorely disappointed in the long run.

Closing comment: Should Agel not make it long term as I believe they won't, it will not be because of questionable ethics on the part of people there like Randy Gage or the founders of Agel. These are quality, high integrity people. It will just be a failure to bring to the market real value discernible from the morass of "Me too!" products and companies out there today.

Best regards,
Jeff O'Hora

[LE705]

Originally Posted by Jeff O'Hora

I realize these posts here have been up for a while now, but I thought I'd still add my two cents worth.

Agel has attracted a couple of "heavy hitters" to promote the business. The inference of course is that "If these guys are here/doing it, it must really be good/hot!" While that may or may not be true of a given opportunity be it Agel or some other company, one needs to look beyond the big names to make some determination as to whether or not it really is a serious opportunity based on merits unrelated to the superstar celebs.

Let's take Randy Gage for an example. Randy is a talented, smart, well respected guy with a strong reputation for training. 10 - 15 years ago Randy's seminars were very popular and he commanded a high price for his weekend training seminars. His cassette series sold big time. I owned one of them myself back in the early 90's. I never attended any of his seminars. Having come out of the corporate insurance world, I had been to my share of trainings by a wide range of super stars from the insurance industry. As well, I also attended things like Tom Hopkins's weekend long Boot Camp seminars. Randy's material was for the most part his personality overlaid on already established concepts and ideas. For me at least not a lot new there. But people were willing to pony up $5 g's to hear and watch him present it for a weekend.

So with that reputation going for him, the idea that he "came out of retirement" to do Agel would seem to imply that "this must really be something big!" ... maybe. And maybe not. Personally, I think Randy "came out of retirement" not because Agel is so great, but because he no longer would command the money he once did. The advent of the Internet has changed the face of training. Furthermore, the plethora of new companies with slick web sites packed with good training materials and trainers has greatly watered down the demand and the need for people to train people. Frankly, network marketing is a very simple business at it's core. It's an easy business that can be hard to do. Easy because it only takes a consistency of effort doing some simple activities day in and day out. Hard in that most people will not be consistent with those activities.

But in many cases, there is a library of training available to the new distributor a mere few clicks away. For example in my own case and company, my back office has previously recorded product and business training calls. Without going there now to count it all, I'd guesstimate we have somewhere in the range of 200 hours on the products and nutritional science. And we have another 200+ hours on business training. Many of those hours of business training are not by "professional trainers", but instead by hands on, in the field distributors/business builders , who are earning any where from $100k a year to well in excess of a a million dollar$ a year and in a few cases, in excess of $2 million ... a year! And it's F-R-E-E from the comfort of my home!! So who needs a Randy Gage?

Here's my point. Randy's a quality guy and a sharp business builder. I take nothing away from him. (I wish he were in my organization! Long term, he'd stand to make a LOT more money despite his front line to Agel corporate position. ;-)) And the people who will get his training at Agel will greatly benefit from him. But it's my belief/opinion, that Randy was lured into Agel for the opportunity to be on the company's front line and because he needed to get back in the game in order to maintain his lifestyle. The days of big ticket seminars netting $10 G's in a day or $100 - $250k+ on a Power Weekend Seminar are for the most part all over for a lot of these guys.

So what does that leave in terms of Agel's draw? Well the USP (Unique Selling Proposition) is the reputed patented suspension technology, the delivery system for the nutrients. To the uninitiated, all the buzz and talk they present about the failure of nutritionals to be assimilated by the body and thus the stories of vitamins clogging sewer and septic systems is hyped. Well that may well have been true to some extent 15 - 20 years ago, but it isn't true today and hasn't been for a long time now. the science and technology has advanced to the point that a pill/tablet can within 15 - 20 minutes be fully broken down in the gut and assimilated into the blood stream. Furthermore, liquid nutritionals are now common place in the market.

Agel has no USP to speak of. That leaves them with depending on the quality of the products. I've been around this industry, health/wellness now for close to 15 years. I'm not the least impressed with Agel's quality. Some of the ingredients used I wouldn't consume. In fact I think that some of what they've used and since changed points to a lack of clarity on the part of the corporate leadership as to what a demanding consumer is willing to accept, when it comes to high end nutritional science. Artificial colors, sweeteners and additives from a so-called "leading age" health products company?!? Come on, get real!

I'm not a betting man, but if I was I'd bet you dollars to donuts that Agel will be gone in five years or less. It's just way too competitive out there to make it big time with what they are offering. And this is way longer than I meant it to be, so I didn't even comment on the convoluted, complicated nature of the compensation plan. There is NO WAY one could communicate that comp plan to a prospect in 2 - 3 minutes, such that they would be able to grasp it. I wish Randy & company well in their endeavors. Regrettably, I think he and they will be sorely disappointed in the long run.

Closing comment: Should Agel not make it long term as I believe they won't, it will not be because of questionable ethics on the part of people there like Randy Gage or the founders of Agel. These are quality, high integrity people. It will just be a failure to bring to the market real value discernible from the morass of "Me too!" products and companies out there today.

Best regards,
Jeff O'Hora

I'll start my filibuster on my experience with Agel by advising all buyers beware!! Approximately 1 month ago, an old friend sent me a DVD which after many motivational phone calls, I reluctantly watched. After viewing this well done DVD or infomercial, I was hypnotized and quickly called this person and gave her my credit card information. The DVD is misleading and misrepresents the amount of time and effort that is required to succeed in such a venture. After discussing this with others, I quickly realized that I had made a mistake and called my friend, telling her of my concerns and that being an Agel rep was not feasible for me at this time. Well that’s when the problems started, she told me that I should reconsider, that Agel was a gold mine and that I had to do practically nothing to be successful. (Now keep in mind that this all occurred in one day), I then asked her to not submit my credit card, that I was not interested and she told me that it was too late. She further advised that if I had second thoughts, all I would have to do is refuse the shipments of product and business tool and my account would be credited. The products were refused and I found that after 2 weeks Agel had not refunded my credit card the $1326.28 as promised. I then contacted their customer service department and at first they were responsive and told me that I would be refunded the money. Well that has not happened and now they do not reply to my e-mails when I'm simply asking for the status of my refund. It looks like I'm not going to get my money without further legal intervention. I'm assuming at this time that there are a lot of people out there who are in the same situation.

That is why I question their ethics, why would they not refund money. They must be in a desperate situation. Well the only one I could blame at this time is myself and hopefully anyone considering Agel as a means to supplement their income should be very careful. Buyer Beware

[Reprobate]

Another good post by Jeff O'Hora!

As for LE705... good luck in getting your money back. Customer Support has a lot to be desired.

I see I didn't mention earlier that I had signed up to Agel. But got stuffed around no end. Email after email. Heck, I even had the rep at customer support contact someone in my upline to say that my email server was bouncing their emails.

As it turned out they were emailing the wrong address. Had they simply clicked on REPLY TO SENDER they would have got me. I dose of incompetence saw a situation start bad and get worse.

In the process I had someone from my upline berate my wife for my behaviour. My behaviour wasn't misbehaviour. I had stated civilly in emails what was happening, and how it could be corrected. And having a timely response to my questions would have been a good idea. As it was I had to chase them up time and time again.

This person in my upline was embarrassed by my emails. And suggested in future I contact them rather than hassle customer support.

I shot back an email further up HIS upline and pointed out that if his email address was customersupport@agel then I'd do so.

In addition to that I wasn't getting on the phone to ring the wife of the customer support rep to rip into her. Nor should that happen to me.

So LE705, first and foremost I'd be blaming your old friend for getting you into the predicament you're in. No, not for telling you about the opportunity, but for letting you down at that moment when you asked her to not submit your credit card.

I hate to speculate when not fully aware of the situation or the integrity of the parties involved, but if I were a gambling man I'd say that she hadn't submitted your credit card details. That she was motivated by greed... maybe even the need to succeed, but greed nonetheless, and went through with it.

Now I could be wrong. I probably am. But if I were you I'd try to find out the exact time the credit card was processed. If she indeed submitted it AFTER you told her then I'm sure there is a matter of recourse. Even if it is solely against her.

As for doing nothing to be successful, hmmmmm... a person can succeed at Agel if they are sales orientated and they have plenty of contacts, or know how to make them quickly. In addition to that they need to put in BIG hours.

I was told it could be done on the side. Just a few hours a week. But I now know more than ever that unless you're willing to invest full time hours into it, you won't see a good return.

The people who I am seeing making the BIG bucks are putting in more than 40 hours a week.

So much for it being a bit on the side.

We recently enquired about the process of selling our position. And found out that we would need to be WAY up the ladder to be able to do that. Something that was not mentioned, nor in place when we first joined.

When I said "The company itself is ethical and honest" that was BEFORE I found out that the goal posts have been moved, that the rules changed.

[LE705]

Originally Posted by Reprobate

Another good post by Jeff O'Hora!

As for LE705... good luck in getting your money back. Customer Support has a lot to be desired.

I see I didn't mention earlier that I had signed up to Agel. But got stuffed around no end. Email after email. Heck, I even had the rep at customer support contact someone in my upline to say that my email server was bouncing their emails.

As it turned out they were emailing the wrong address. Had they simply clicked on REPLY TO SENDER they would have got me. I dose of incompetence saw a situation start bad and get worse.

In the process I had someone from my upline berate my wife for my behaviour. My behaviour wasn't misbehaviour. I had stated civilly in emails what was happening, and how it could be corrected. And having a timely response to my questions would have been a good idea. As it was I had to chase them up time and time again.

This person in my upline was embarrassed by my emails. And suggested in future I contact them rather than hassle customer support.

I shot back an email further up HIS upline and pointed out that if his email address was customersupport@agel then I'd do so.

In addition to that I wasn't getting on the phone to ring the wife of the customer support rep to rip into her. Nor should that happen to me.

So LE705, first and foremost I'd be blaming your old friend for getting you into the predicament you're in. No, not for telling you about the opportunity, but for letting you down at that moment when you asked her to not submit your credit card.

I hate to speculate when not fully aware of the situation or the integrity of the parties involved, but if I were a gambling man I'd say that she hadn't submitted your credit card details. That she was motivated by greed... maybe even the need to succeed, but greed nonetheless, and went through with it.

Now I could be wrong. I probably am. But if I were you I'd try to find out the exact time the credit card was processed. If she indeed submitted it AFTER you told her then I'm sure there is a matter of recourse. Even if it is solely against her.

As for doing nothing to be successful, hmmmmm... a person can succeed at Agel if they are sales orientated and they have plenty of contacts, or know how to make them quickly. In addition to that they need to put in BIG hours.

I was told it could be done on the side. Just a few hours a week. But I now know more than ever that unless you're willing to invest full time hours into it, you won't see a good return.

The people who I am seeing making the BIG bucks are putting in more than 40 hours a week.

So much for it being a bit on the side.

We recently enquired about the process of selling our position. And found out that we would need to be WAY up the ladder to be able to do that. Something that was not mentioned, nor in place when we first joined.

When I said "The company itself is ethical and honest" that was BEFORE I found out that the goal posts have been moved, that the rules changed.

Great Advise thanks I do appreciate it. I'm definitely going to check the credit card time. This person (my now ex-friend) is totally brainwashed, she signs,” I AM AGEL" after all of her e-mails, scary. Who know maybe the product contains some sort of mind controlling chemicals that induce compliance, since no one knows what’s in it anyway. All I know is when I use to talk to the customer service rep, she told me that once they received their mind altering gunk, that I would receive a refund to my credit card. I have documented that they have been in receipt of both the gunk and tools to peddle it, since 3/21/07. Now they don't respond to my e-mails. Unreal, like I said before, I'm the idiot for giving her my credit card number in the first place. The thing is I was told by two customer service reps that the refund would be not problem this time, since the originally rep told me to refuse the product. Although they did make it clear that it was against policy!!!! Policy, what kind of policy condones theft (Grand at that) people get arrested for much less. Everyone who is in this Labyrinth need to familiarize themselves with the Agel policies, what an eye opener. The company is built around the paradigm of greed and profit, not for the consumer or the front line rep, who only has the promise of success and long hours. But for the upper level managerial personnel who are really benefiting form the hard work of those below them. Their policies keep you looking for anyone with a credit card by dangling the golden carrot in front of you; of course you never reach it.

Thanks, now I feel better. This company could change the rules at any time and yank the rug right from underneath you. I guess we live and learn. It’s a tough lesson.

LE705
I'm Not Agel

[Reprobate]

Originally Posted by LE705

Thanks, now I feel better. This company could change the rules at any time and yank the rug right from underneath you. I guess we live and learn. It’s a tough lesson.

That "I Am Agel" line is being used from the top dogs down. And why? Who knows. Maybe they think it's cool.

Personally I think it sounds really idiotic. And I don't think I'm assuming too much if I think you'd agree with me

I wasted a big chunk of change on them. Money I'll never see again.

If you go to [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now] you can read another thread about Agel. I'm AussieWebGuy over there. My tale of woe is worth reading. You can get to see how close you were to wasting a lot of time, money and effort.

But as you say we live and we learn. Some lessons cost more than others. And if we can learn from those mistakes, and not throw good money after bad, then maybe we're smarter for it.

I hope you get your money back. If you don't, make a noise. Kick up a fuss. And check up on your former old friend 6 to 12 months from now. I bet she has a bitter taste in her mouth and have paid more money than she made back.

[Reprobate]

An update to what I said over at [Only registered and activated users can see links. Either login above or Register Now]

* We ended up getting the brochures, but not the pamphlets and Agel pin.

* The shopping cart has still not been installed at the iamagel.com site.

* After a spectacular start my inlaws slid down to around AU$200 a month in residuals. Which barely covers the cost of the two boxes that they were getting themselves (you have to keep buying the product yourself to be eligible for the money made in your downline). And that was as of a few months ago. I think they've since stopped all Agel activity (like us). And they did pull in a lot of money at the start. Though with all the stuff they bought and travelling and other expenses they may have broke even at the end of it all (unlike us).

* I vouched for the company as a whole as being legit... now I'll just keep it as 'no comment'.

[teo31313]

SInce we are telling stories here I thought that I might jump in with mine...

I was introduced to Agel last June...I was very skeptical at first then I listened and did my own research..I came up with the only logical conclusion that was feasable..

We joined, and 2 weeks after joining we had enrolled 5 people who in turn enrolled more and by the end of the month our little team was 30 strong...It has grown by leaps and bounds since then...

Last I looked we were at around 230 total....We make some pretty good extra money..

On the customer service side wedid have someone that had "Buyers Remorse" and they received their money back in 5 days...Noe they regret their decision to have quit.

When you get right down to it...it is net_WORK marketing..not netSIT marketing...It is a job like any other the difference being that you dotn have to answer to a boss everyday...

If gyms were so great then why isnt everyone in shape...???

Because most people are joiners and they are lazy...they have no self confidence and they dont put forth the effort that they should and then they dont make any money for the first month making excuses like "But I talked to everyone I know"...I ask how many and they say 5 people...cmon could you operate a restaurant by only telling 5 people about it...of course not.

But the biggest reason people dont do MLM is out of FEAR..Fear of doing something new, or fear of failure...

I guess my Special Forces background taught me one thing "Winners never quit and quitters never win..."

But heres the deal - MLM is not for weak people...If you cant take rejection and objection then truly DO NOT do this business...You are more cut out for the daily grind...join the other sheep in the pack and just follow the crowd...

MLM is for leaders...and if you arent a leader, but stick to the program you will be in 6 months...guarenteed...

I understand I will get flamed to no end on here now for posting a positive comment..since every thing else is filled with negativity...

[LE705]

[quote=teo31313;947143]SInce we are telling stories here I thought that I might jump in with mine...

I was introduced to Agel last June...I was very skeptical at first then I listened and did my own research..I came up with the only logical conclusion that was feasable..

We joined, and 2 weeks after joining we had enrolled 5 people who in turn enrolled more and by the end of the month our little team was 30 strong...It has grown by leaps and bounds since then...

Last I looked we were at around 230 total....We make some pretty good extra money..

On the customer service side wedid have someone that had "Buyers Remorse" and they received their money back in 5 days...Noe they regret their decision to have quit.

When you get right down to it...it is net_WORK marketing..not netSIT marketing...It is a job like any other the difference being that you dotn have to answer to a boss everyday...

If gyms were so great then why isnt everyone in shape...???

Because most people are joiners and they are lazy...they have no self confidence and they dont put forth the effort that they should and then they dont make any money for the first month making excuses like "But I talked to everyone I know"...I ask how many and they say 5 people...cmon could you operate a restaurant by only telling 5 people about it...of course not.

But the biggest reason people dont do MLM is out of FEAR..Fear of doing something new, or fear of failure...

I guess my Special Forces background taught me one thing "Winners never quit and quitters never win..."

But heres the deal - MLM is not for weak people...If you cant take rejection and objection then truly DO NOT do this business...You are more cut out for the daily grind...join the other sheep in the pack and just follow the crowd...

MLM is for leaders...and if you arent a leader, but stick to the program you will be in 6 months...guarenteed...

I understand I will get flamed to no end on here now for posting a positive comment..since every thing else is filled with negativity...

If anyone that reads this is interested you can check out
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You call your comment positve, you should re-read it. You assume that its because people are weak that they don't succeed in a MLM paradime. I suppose thats what your upline told you say and like a good little machine you believe everything they tell you. To me thats weak!! Lets face it, get real, this type of business is not for everyone and its not out of fear. Use you head, think, some people just are not in the position to successfully complete such a venture. Running around grabbing credit card numbers from familiy members, neighbors ect, to me is not a sign of strenth, thats a sign of weakness. Writing "I AM Agel" after your name is a sign of weakness.Hiding behind a misleading DVD and letting that DVD do your selling , is also not a sign of strenth, it's a sign of weakness and fear. Hopefully, you have something on the back burner when the bubble burst. But being prior military myself, I wish you the best and remember those guys in agel can change the rules of the game anytime they want to, stand up to them, don't be weak.

As far as the customer service is conserned, it's been alot longer than 5 days and now they don't even respond to my e-mails or phone calls. Great Company, so legit, they can't even complete a simple refund. Yeah, a very ethicle corporation, that keeps over $1000.00, that does not belong to them. It's about GREED, my mislead friend.

LE705
I'm NOT AGEL"

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First off how long did you give it?? 1 day?? 2 days?? then you quit...whats your reason...all you scammers come with this unethical garbage constantly but you never ever have a substantiated argument...

There are now over 100,000 people in Agel worldwide...I find it hard to believe that you are always right and all of them are wrong...

If it aint for you good...thanks for quitting so the rest of us can become successful...

I was successful in the Army (E-8 in 11 years)...(I retired as an E-9, nmade that in 15 years)...so for you to suggest that I am anything but successful is a farse.

I hate McDonalds food...its garbage...but I dont create a message board for the sole purpose of trying to destroy a company just because I got sick from it once....thats stupid and pointless...

If you dont like Agel or our products then pass it on by...whats you purpose for trying to destroy something because it didnt work for you...

Lastly, Customer Service...I have never ever called and the phone has not been answered...I have never heard of any of the over 230 people on our team ever having a problem...the one person that wanted out after 3 days got their money back(posted back to their CC) within 5 days...to suggest otherwise is to call me a liar and I am not...My integrity and ethical beliefs are as sound as when I was in the Army...

You call into question the fact that I say I am Agel....if you owned a company or a business of any kind I would consider you a fool not to promote it...if you owned a restraunt would you tell everyone to eat somewhere else...you points are stupid...

Try your dribble on someone that doesnt know any better...

I AM AGEL...AND I AM SUCCESSFUL