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Originally Posted by FunDUHmental

I don't get it?

No, you most certainly don't. And I seriously doubt that you EVER will! Don't feel too bad though, because you're not alone. There's millions of other liberals in this world who don't get it and never will!

Originally Posted by FunDUHmental

Every step of the way I questioned the so called "evidence" of Iraq's nuclear program, WMD, and chemical and biological weapons W, Dick and Ms. Rice claimed, I did the questioning publicly here on DoD. What did I get for it? Nasty name calling just like you are doing now.

Sorry bud, but you got answers to ALL of your questions. You were just too obstinate to absorb the information. When I find myself having to repeat the same thing over and over again, it's not MY fault that you're too thick to "get it". It's been spelled out in very simple terms for you. You're just too dense, that's all! That's not name-calling...it's a factual observation that any reasonable person can make.

Originally Posted by FunDUHmental

most threads that were started by the Republicans on this board in regards to further the war propaganda effort were removed after I pointed out how factually inaccurate they were.

Oh, what a load of self-important BS! Any threads removed were done because you were such a crybaby. I'm pretty sure that there has been absolutely no change in your maturity over the last several years. Your ego is so easily bruised that when you're cornered, there's nothing left to do but demand the "bad bad words" be obliterated. I'm surprised that my first post lasted this long. As far as the "war propaganda effort" goes, you obviously believe that anything opposing your viewpoint is "propaganda"; an attempt to swindle someone into believing something. That is so hilarious because you Democrats wrote the book on lying, cheating and swindling people. You are experts at projection!

The dumbest thing for anybody to do is to demand that posts be removed. I prefer that ALL posts be preserved so that I can always point to where you make a fool out of yourself. If anyone posted propaganda "too sensitive" that it must be removed, the prudent thing to do would be to blow it apart with logic and reason and show why it is wrong. You liberals are totally incapable of doing that though, so if you hear words that you don't like, you simply cry "foul" and demand the post or entire thread be removed. Such pathetic crybabies you are!

There is an endless body of evidence of the inability of liberals to engage in civil debate. The most common reaction when cornered is to attempt to switch topics. When hopelessly cornered, the liberal wants all evidence of the loss to be purged from history. This was YOUR preferred method, always crying "foul" until you got your way. It really is pathetic.

Originally Posted by FunDUHmental

Who was right about the lead up to the war, anyway?

Certainly NOT liberals! They were right about practically NOTHING...zilch...nada. Liberals are rarely right about anything. We're talking basic logic here, not wild guesses or inevitable consequences (such as when you engage in war, bad things will happen and not everything will go perfectly).

Once again, the tax cuts are prime examples of liberals guessing wrong. When GWB said the tax cuts would work, liberals proclaimed that the economy would go down the tube. Liberals wanted IMMEDIATE results and conservatives understood that these things took time. In that period before the economy started rebounding, things were still not good and liberals continued to proclaim their "rightness", as you're doing now. "GWB is going to throw the American economy in the toilet", the brainless liberals proclaimed. However with the passage of time, we can clearly see how they were so wrong. You were one of them, FunDUHmental. And like so many liberals who aren't willing to concede that GWB was right, you have to scramble to find some other aspect of the economy that is imperfect just so you can assign blame. If interest rates are low, you complain that the elderly can no longer survive off their savings. If the rates rise, you complain that the housing market is suffering. Whatever happens, you'll find a negative aspect that you will try to use to your advantage. Such changes occur in any market economy. You just choose to exploit ALL negative effects, attempting to use them as ammunition against your political foes. You certainly don't have any GOOD ammunition available!

Anyone can see this happening today with the race for the Presidency. A couple months ago, liberals were demanding an immediate withdrawal from Iraq. GWB's calls for "stay the course" were ridiculed. Once again, time has proven GWB to be right. The surge has yielded results so good that even the liberal media has to knuckle in and report the improvements. To think that if liberals had their way, our troops would have been withdrawn prematurely, allowing Al-Qaeda to fill the void. Once again, the liberal candidates have to scramble to find something else to complain about. Such brainless little monkeys they are!

Originally Posted by FunDUHmental

"Republican-led rebuttal are statements made by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who noted that 'every intelligence agency in the world, including the Russian, French, including the Israeli, all had reached the same conclusion, and that was that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.'

But this is disingenuous. The intelligence services of everyone else were not proclaiming Iraq to be in possession of WMD. Rather, the intelligence services of France, Russia, Germany, Great Britain and Israel were noting that Iraq had failed to properly account for the totality of its past proscribed weapons programs, and in doing so left open the possibility that Iraq might retain an undetermined amount of WMD. There is a huge difference in substance and nuance between such assessments and the hyped-up assertions by the Bush administration concerning active programs dedicated to the reconstitution of WMD, as well as the existence of massive stockpiles of forbidden weaponry."
Scott Ritter, former UN Weapons Inspector

It's certainly NOT disingenuous, but what else would I expect to hear from someone who is so disingenous himself? You're quite the projectionist, "DUH". FunDUHmental is too long to type, so I think I'll just call you DUH from now on. It'll shorten what promises to be a lengthy post, anyway!

Now to the point...I don't disagree that the intelligence differed among nations. We later discovered that France and Russia had ulterior motives for the U.S. NOT to invade Iraq. Anyone would be a fool to let a madman play with WMD or deliver it to other madmen like jihadists. If there's suspicion that there's danger within a box, the prudent thing to do is to open the box to be certain that the danger is eliminated. The absolutely most stupid thing to do is to believe others who say there is no danger in the box even though the only one who knows for sure is the party who put the "danger" in there. That would be Saddam himself, and he publicly claimed there was danger within. Too bad for him...his ruse backfired and he is now dead. But this has been explained many times before and you obviously STILL don't get it! You obviously never will!