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FunDUHmental made a recent post to an old thread: WMDs and The Psychology of Fanaticism. I've been out of this site for years now, but I felt a reply was warranted. Unfortunately the thread is locked now, so I'll start this one.

Originally Posted by FunDUHmental

This thread is an example of how ugly DoD got when the war began. Now, over four years later, just about everything bad said about the president and the war, then, has come to light and has been accepted by the American people.

"DUH"

It's the basis of a new car commercial: "DUH" is a word that implies something is so obvious, it should be a no-brainer.

Yet, SOME people still don't get it. They never will. One of them is Fun"DUH"mental.

FunDUHmental is one of many liberals who will just NEVER "get it". You can try explaining it to them until your face turns blue. What should be simple concepts for a normal person to grasp just goes in one ear and out the other.
There are really just 2 possibilities:

1. a liberal is so intent on protecting their agenda that they refuse to let anything come close to bringing down their house of cards, or
2. they're just unbelievably stupid and can't grasp simple concepts.

Actually, I think it's a good combination of both.

Let's examine the evidence...

First FunDUHmental says "just about everything bad said about the president...has come to light and has been accepted by the American people".

Well, just WHO are these American people? Could it be the liberals who run the mainstream media and feed their left-wing propaganda to the masses?? We've heard it said many times how foreigners now HATE the U.S. and President Bush. It's been repeated so many times it's hard NOT to believe it. But just several weeks back something strange happened. I was watching NBC Nightly News when they showed Bush in Albania getting the "rock star" treatment by throngs. These not only were foreigners, they were Moooooslims! And "rock star treatment" was the wording used by the NBC anchor.

Omigod!

Just HOW did THAT happen? I'm not wondering why they were praising Bush for giving fellow Muslims in Iraq the chance to live a life free of oppression: that should be a no-brainer for ANYONE who prefers freedom to dictatorship! The puzzlement is WHAT WAS NBC THINKING??? How in the world did they let that little news clip get broadcast to millions? Someone at NBC must've been hitting the bong a little too hard there that day! Maybe they figured it was an off-day and no one would be watching! Just how does one reconcile statements like "the whole world hates Bush" after seeing this exhibition of adoration??

Similarly, there's John McCain's poor showing in the polls. The mainstream media just LOVES to attribute his "lackluster performance" to his solidarity to Bush on the Iraq war. They want us to believe that if McCain were against the war his numbers would be much better. Then how do they explain Fred Thompson's numbers? He hasn't even declared himself a candidate yet and his numbers sometimes better Giuliani's, McCain's and Romney's! Thompson's stance on Iraq is much like McCain's and Bush's. The fact is that conservatives aren't all that fond of McCain because of some of his liberal tendencies. But the media WANT us to believe otherwise because it furthers their agenda.

Originally Posted by FunDUHmental

Al Qaeda was not operating in Iraq, as the Vice President claimed then.

How many times in 4 years has FunDUHmental and similarly intellectually-challenged liberals had this explained to them?? Isn't it obvious that no matter how much effort is expended to help them understand...they will JUST.NEVER.GET.IT!!!!???

I look forward to every Sunday night now. 10pm is when the Fox News channel airs its new show "The 1/2-hour News Hour", a comedy similar to Saturday Night Live's "Weekend News Update" segment. It's downright hilarious and obviously picking up momentum; there are more commercials now than when the show first aired and there has been a new episode every week for the last 4 or 5 weeks. It's great to see blatant ridicule of liberal stupidity. It's what's needed because there is no way to reason with the liberal mindset. But liberals sure do understand when their ideas are so dumb and their actions are so hypocritical that people laugh at them. Maybe that's the only way to get them to "see the light"; reasoning with them certainly isn't possible.

Originally Posted by FunDUHmental

Saddam and Osama were not in bed with each other as Rice insinuated.

No WMD in Iraq.

Just more evidence that millions of words later, FunDUHmental and others like him will never understand.

Originally Posted by FunDUHmental

Over 3000 Americans dead and over 66,000 seriously wounded.

Unfortunately, freedom is not free. If FunDUHmental was in charge of the Normandy invasion in 1944, the minute Americans started dying by the scores he would have pulled the troops back. D-Day was just the start...it still took an enormous toll of Allied lives, but in the end a powerful dictator was defeated. Without that terrible sacrifice the world would've been a very different place today. Freedom is very costly and it doesn't come instantly when you begin fighting for it.

Today's enemy is just as evil as Hitler, if not more. Today's enemy is NOT just Osama or Al-Qaeda. It is THOUSANDS of radical Muslims, each intent on destroying our freedoms; each intent on subjecting the world to Taliban-like rule. If you value your freedom you should do everything in your power to preserve it. You will have no problem ensuring that Islamic radicals will never get their hands on WMD whether it came from Saddam's regime or Iran.

And to reiterate the "no WMD" argument: intelligence from several different nations said Iraq had WMD. Saddam himself claimed to have WMD. You don't point an authentic-looking toy gun at a police officer then expect him to examine the weapon closely before he kills you, do you? It's Saddam's fault alone that he lost his dictatorship and his life.

Originally Posted by FunDUHmental

One trillion a month is being spent in a quagmire.

I'm sure Mikey Mooron is thanking you for pulling that number out of his derriere, FunDUHmental. He's grateful to have minions like you relieve his constipation while helping to broadcast his bogus, deceptive messages to those who are impressionable and naive. He also thanks you for making him wealthy by watching his "fictition". And I'm sure you'd also have qualified D-Day as a quagmire, wouldn't you? Apparently you'll never learn from history.

Originally Posted by FunDUHmental

From signing statements to the expansion of Presidential privilege, the Bush administration has walked over our legislative process.

The Office of the President and the office of the Vice President are the Executive Branch; they are subject to the rules thereof, despite what Cheney has said.

The value of the dollar is shrinking all over the world.

The U.S. is in a far better state under this administration than it would have been under Gore or Kerry. God forbid that GWB had listened to the moronic lefties who said the U.S. would collapse under his tax cuts. Still, as the economy rebounded liberals tried EVERY trick in the book to get people to believe that things were worse than they were. When it was obvious that the old arguments wouldn't work any more, they tried new ones. When the new ones didn't work they had to resort to lies. Dan Rather went down in flames trying to push one particular lie. Mikey Mooron's "Fahrenheit 9-11" film was so laced with lies and distortions (as are ALL of his films) that it probably HELPED G.W.B. get re-elected in 2004! Good going, Mooron!

It's really hard to believe that lefties will still cling to their idols. What fools would believe that "Bush is Hitler" or "Saddam won a popularity contest against Bush"? I'm aghast that millions of Iraqis now have a chance to live in freedom because of G.W.B., yet he is considered E.V.I.L. by lefties nationwide! These same lefties embrace national figures like Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez, ruthless dictators who have stolen (and are in the process of stealing) people's freedoms. One of these idiots used to be the President of the U.S.A.! Yes, peanut-brain Jimmy Carter joins Cindy Sheehan, Danny Glover and countless other fools who heap praise on ruthless dictators! Then there are the left-wing nutjobs who volunteered to be human shields for Saddam! How dumb does one have to be to do THAT???

What fools still voted for Kerry in 2004 after he was caught in SO MANY LIES??? How can anyone believe that such a liar will do as he promised if elected? Certainly Sheehan was disillusioned after Pelosi & Fools, Inc. took power earlier this year. As incredibly stupid as Sheehan has shown herself to be, she'll probably continue to vote for the Dimocrats. Some people never learn.

Gore is still "Mr. Environment" to his dumb followers. Don't they care that he tells everyone else to conserve while his own household consumes 20 times the national average?

Seemingly the biggest reason that people vote for Dimocrats is the hope for "wealth distribution". Most liberals think that voting "D" will get them a candidate who is against big business and will bring back "power to the people". Nice in theory. Bad in practice. Democrats tend to raise taxes and chase businesses out of their neighborhoods. This leaves the locals less opportunity for employment. The end result is higher unemployment and LESS tax revenue. Democrats will NEVER get it! That's why they're so flummoxed that GWB's tax cuts produced GREATER tax revenue! They still don't understand how that worked!

And just who are the leaders flaunting their wealth? You had to laugh at Kerry pretending to be a "man of the people" while he zipped around on his multi-thousand dollar bicycle near one of his (really Theresa's) many mansions. John Edwards paying $400 for a haircut? Al Gore's 10,000-sq ft home? The debt-ridden Clintons buying their Chappaqua home for $1.7 million, anticipating cashing in on a lucrative speech circuit? Don't forget the Kennedys. Then ask yourself: what President wears a $50 Timex Indiglo watch and gets simple pleasure out of clearing brush? Oh yeah...that would be G.W.B. It seems the Dumbocrats take the forefront for the "money grabbers" title. If you think that Democrats will redistribute wealth your way, then why are all these prominent Democrats redistributing wealth THEIR way?? Why don't they practice what they preach?

Then you've got the many other examples of liberal idiots. Every time Rosie O'Donnell opens her mouth it just spews idiotic statements. Steel has NEVER melted before? What kind of brain-dead people are still adored by millions after exhibiting such sheer stupidity?? Linda Ronstadt gets booed off a Las Vegas stage because people wanted to hear her sing, NOT to hear her stupid opinions! Don't these people understand that they're paid millions for their entertainment value, NOT their mental prowess?? Obviously they believe their net worth is in direct proportion to their intelligence. Boy, are they EVER wrong!

So, if you think this post is "ugly", so be it! I've learned that it's no use to try to get a liberal to understand something. They DON'T want to understand it, because submitting to the facts would only undermine their selfish personal agenda. Liberal agendas are varied, including wealth distribution, homosexual "rights", sla-very reparations, etc. Their hatred for conservatives stems from their fear that any kind of morality threatens their agendas, and they're probably right. Rather than expending tons of energy to reason with liberals, the best thing is to just annihilate their platform and ridicule their belief system. They'll dance all around your arguments, thinking that evasive maneuvering and changing the subject will save them when they find themselves pinned down. You can painstakingly respond to each and every one of their points and the next thing you know, they'll repeat some point you've already shot down. Jwelch111 was famous for that little trick.

Originally Posted by FunDUHmental

It is a shame so many people were hoodwinked into believing this war was justified.

It's a shame that so many people will NEVER overcome their "destiny with density"! And after so many years on a message board, I'd think that by now you'd know how to use the quote function properly!